talk me out of a Shiva EL34 Reverb Head

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Funky Chicken, Nov 4, 2005.


  1. Funky Chicken

    Funky Chicken Member

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    My only reservation is that it may be too loud. Most of my gigs at this point are 500 miles from home, so I'm flying and renting.
    Is there anything else I should be trying out that will do similar things with less volume, or should I get an Airbrake or Hot Plate, or is the Shiva master really that good? I'm talking "house" but not "bedroom" volumes.
     
  2. procos

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    I think the master is that good. It is one of the best masters around.

    Chuck
     
  3. Scott Peterson

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    Get a Hot Plate, no worries. The master is very good though.
     
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    Whatever you do, don't buy it!













    Did that talk you out of it? :)
     
  5. kselbee

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    The Shiva sounds great at lower volumes so you shouldn't worry about volume.
     
  6. Shemp

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    I have mine sitting in my living room right now, plugged into a 2X12 and play it regularly without disturbing my wife.
     
  7. MightyGuru

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    I liked the clean channel a lot but found the dirt channel slightly dark and a little too compressed for my tastes. It still sounded great in a band mix, though.
     
  8. Shemp

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    The Shiva loves pedals if you don't like the dirt channel.
     
  9. MightyGuru

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    True. I used an Addrock Boostmaster with it and it sounded wonderful (before the Shiva was stolen).
     
  10. bobbtoz

    bobbtoz Silver Supporting Member

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    The Shiva has the best master volume I've ever tried. You won't need a hot plate.
     
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    As others have mentioned, the master volume is global and accurately controls both channels. It's really easy to dial in the correct channel volume for clean and gain, then regulate overall volume with the master.

    I used mine (Shiva EL34/Reverb on top of a Bogner open back 410 cab) at some pretty 'subdued' gigs. It still sounded wonderful even at low volumes.

    Like any other 2 EL34 amps, it does bloom nicely when opened up a bit! ;)

    dave
     
  12. riverastoasters

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    Get a hot plate. If you like the Shive sounds, you're good to go.
     
  13. devbro

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    I tried a Hotplate with my EL34 Shiva and I thought it smothered the sound. The master volume is the way to go.

    As previously posted, I also have refrained from using the drive channel due to the dark compressed sound. Oddly, I talked to Greg at Bogner and he said he'd never heard this complaint before :confused:

    I get all the dirt & drive I need from the clean channel with a Zen, Timmy and FDII. I use the Timmy as a clean boost and stack the Zen into it for a truly smooth blooming drive. The FDII is great for all out OD.
     
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    Tim pedal and the Pro Analog Dual Drive work very well on my Shiva's clean channel.
     
  15. Bo Faulkner

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    Wow you guys are talking me into one instead of talking the thread starter out of one
     
  16. Plan9FOS

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    If you don't care about the spanky, funky, almost sterile cleans, then the Shiva rocks. The problem is setting up both channels to gig with. You have to get the master pumping to get the cleans where you want, but then the gain channel is deafening ... so you start turing down the gain on the lead channel to match the clean channel volume, and the wailing lead sound dries up a bit. I would leave the boost on for all rock tunes, and adjust the gain down from there.

    However, if you don't need the clean channel, fire that sucker up! BTW, I gigged with 3 different Shivas over a 2 year period. The older Shivas, which are easy to spot because the power tubes loaded sideways in compartments where the fixed vents are now, were MUCH more aggressive. I am talking a much better cranked power tube sound at lower volumes. I had an older one and sold it, because I am a fool :(
     
  17. Probos

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    Ok. Don't get a Shiva,..get an Orange Rockerverb 50 instead.

    :cool:
     
  18. PaulS2

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    "Wow you guys are talking me into one instead of talking the thread starter out of one"


    Talked me into getting one ....just arrived today. What a nice amp.

    Cleans are great and the dirty channel is just right to my ears. Thick and smooth, what other amps I've tried should have been but just weren't. Master volume is exactly what other's have commented here.
     

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