Talk Me Out of A Trade

TylerE

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IME, rarely - if any - have I felt regret buying the expensive guitars, but usually I regret buying the cheaper ones or ones that don’t go all the way. I end up wanting to get rid of them. Hey great guitars aren’t cheap... but as always, YMMV. Patience is a virtue. Life is short, but you got time to think it through
The Eastman isn't a cheap guitar. Street is about $1900-2000. MSRP $2.5k.

Comes with Lollar Imperials stock.
 

Jabberwocky

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If 10 is out of reach, go for the 9.

I love Gibsons but I'd say to go for the guitar that doesn't break the bank and that keeps you up at night. The Les Paul that you don't play because of its weight is as good as the Les Paul hanging on the shop wall i.e. you may as well not own it and go to the shop to wang on it when you feel like wanging on a Les Paul.

That said, make sure it is not infatuation. Eastman guitars have not so good resale value. I would try to buy one used. Between a new Eastman and a good used ES-335 Dot or Block inlays I would choose the latter because 1) I can always get my money back or not lose much at all when I sell it on; 2) brand satisfaction from owning a Gibson.

I would sell the Les Paul that you are not playing because of its weight and with the money in hand wait for the right ES-335 to show up. Patience pays off, in the end.
 
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MonsieurJ

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You recently got a new guitar. I suggest you wait a bit before buying something else and keep your LP for now
 

LBXPDX

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It’s funny how folks are telling you to buy a 335, when an Eastman T186mx is not a 335 clone. The solid woods and the nearly hollow body of the Eastman sounds different than a traditional guitar with a laminated body and a center block. It apples to oranges really.

I have a T185mx, same as the T186mx, just a touch smaller. I love mine for what is. I have a vintage Japanese 335 clone for the traditional 335 sound/feel, but the Eastman has it own thing going on. It feels more refined and complex in its tonal character.
Being the frugal guy that I am, I always recommend buying used. If I were you, I would attempt to hunt down another Eastman and see how it compares to the one you’ve played. From the few I’ve played, their semi hollows are pretty consistent.
 

Jarick

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Quick look, the value looks pretty even on the trade.

For me I got a Les Paul Tribute to scratch that itch. They run $800 or so lightly used and sound and play killer. No frills though so won't make good wall candy.

If you love the Eastman it's going to make you happier than if you struggle with the Les Paul.
 

teleman1

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Stop, your letting the opportunity make your choice. But really it has raised questions. You want a 335? Or a wannabe clone. But take the LP. If you like LP's, you learn to appreciate that all of the lower priced LP's are trying to be, authentic. For me a Gibson LP tribute, is not a competitor for a real LP. A classic, an r4, an r9, historics. These are the LPs you should strive for. Research 335 body style, pickups and noted tone of each. Like the guy said above, he has a 335 Eastman, but its got its own thing going on. Don't expect a guitar like an EPI Sheraton to be giving you 335 vibe, except for looks. If this stuff ins't important to you, do your trade. If it is, start your leaning curve on 335's,330, casino, etc. Hell, wanna talk about necks?
 

doc

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Most of you haven't read the title of the OP. He asked us to talk him out of it. Let me formulate a plan and I'll be back in a bit to do that.
 

Mincer

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You just answered the question . The one you liked spoke to YOU .
I have tested out a few of them and they are very nice. A few of them have Seymore Duncan pick ups .
The Eastman I just got had a set of Antiquities. It is a very nice (not cheap) guitar.
 

thekaiser

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Stop, your letting the opportunity make your choice. But really it has raised questions. You want a 335? Or a wannabe clone. But take the LP. If you like LP's, you learn to appreciate that all of the lower priced LP's are trying to be, authentic. For me a Gibson LP tribute, is not a competitor for a real LP. A classic, an r4, an r9, historics. These are the LPs you should strive for. Research 335 body style, pickups and noted tone of each. Like the guy said above, he has a 335 Eastman, but its got its own thing going on. Don't expect a guitar like an EPI Sheraton to be giving you 335 vibe, except for looks. If this stuff ins't important to you, do your trade. If it is, start your leaning curve on 335's,330, casino, etc. Hell, wanna talk about necks?
I don't know that I've ever specifically wanted only a 335. Like I said, I've been gassing over something in that style/shape. I was also considering 330/Casino's, which are wildly different beasts I know. And I think it's that this Eastman seems to be the best combination of the two. It's mostly hollow, with only the tiniest of center blocks under the bridge which is more 330. The humbuckers give it back some of that 335 sweetness, but it's also solid wood instead of laminate which gives it a bit or an airy quality to the sustain, which is what I responded to most. It sustained in a way that extremely similar to the vintage 335 on the wall, and the sounds with the tone knobs rolled back were very much the same vibe.
 

gillman royce

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For roughly $800 you can get a used Epiphone 335 Pro, put in Duncans or Manlius' pick -ups , professionally rewired and never look back. If you're good with a soldering iron and can do a basic set up, you're into it for $600-650. OR for the price of that Eastman you can find a really nice used Gibson ES 335. You stand a good chance of getting your money back out of either the Epi or the Gibson but $2k for an Eastman ? Used ??
 

SciFlyer

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Talk you out of it? I would save up for something else. Eastmans may be nice guitars but they have weak resale value and most people have no idea what they are. There are many types of Gibsons, Guilds, Gretsches out there that you haven’t explored yet. Hold off.
 

Jayyj

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I'd say the Eastman is worth considering bearing in mind what you've said about looking at 335s and 330s. As others have pointed out, the Eastman isn't a clone of either - rather it's a unique design to Eastman that nicely captures bits of both the 335 and 330, so it may well be the ideal compromise.

Resale may be an issue if you're prone to impulsive decisions or enjoy flipping guitars, but if you're confident this Eastman is something that ticks the boxes for you and you're likely to stick with it then resale shouldn't be to high on the priorities list. The get called guitar is the one you're going to play most.

I don't own an Eastman but we sell them at work so I play loads of them, and the thinlines blow me away. I've been playing one of their 330 clones (T64v) on my lunch break all week and it's astonishingly close to the vintage ES330 I play at home. They really are great.
 

thekaiser

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For roughly $800 you can get a used Epiphone 335 Pro, put in Duncans or Manlius' pick -ups , professionally rewired and never look back. If you're good with a soldering iron and can do a basic set up, you're into it for $600-650. OR for the price of that Eastman you can find a really nice used Gibson ES 335. You stand a good chance of getting your money back out of either the Epi or the Gibson but $2k for an Eastman ? Used ??
I don't know where you're seeing really nice used Gibson's for sub $2K, let alone close to 1500.
 

gillman royce

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I don't know where you're seeing really nice used Gibson's for sub $2K, let alone close to 1500.
In my experience, they always pop up when you're not looking for one. In mutual experiences with others here on TGP it takes time but several members have found theirs for around $1,800. Maybe this thread will draw a few out - we'll see.
 

Hrdrocker39

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Trading at a local shop more than likely means they get the Les Paul AND some cash for the Eastman. No way would I do that. Resale on the Eastman is not going to be good. This isn't about which guitar is best. It's about making a bad financial move.
 

dachshund

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I recently played an Eastman T186MX at a local shop that absolutely blew me away. I've been thinking about it essentially non-stop since playing it. I've always wanted a 335 or Casino style guitar but many that I have played haven't wow'ed me as much as I'd like. This one has. The only thing stopping me from just buying it outright is I recently bought a new Strat and my wife would kill me if I came home with another new guitar so soon.

I do however have a Gibson Les Paul Sig T, that while I love it, doesn't see a lot of playing time, mostly because of it's weight. I've always loved the LP shape and sustain, but tend to navigate back to Strats and my PRS S2. I'm thinking scale length might have something to do with it too.

So my thought is work out a trade for the Eastman with the Gibson, but I have this fear that in a couple months I'm going to be sad I no longer have a Les Paul. Not because I'm missing the sound, but simply because as a kid I always wanted a Les Paul, which is why I probably bought it in the first place.

Am I crazy to trade the LP? Or should I just save up and wait for another 335 style to wow me later down the road?
I would find a really good LP in the same shop even if its out of your price range and test it against the semi hollow. Might help you decide if your personal LP is lacking or if you really do mesh better with a semi hollow. Good luck!
 
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I just traded a nice LP Special that I never played, for a sweet 12-fret acoustic that I really wanted. Bottom line, if you aren’t playing a guitar at least semi-regularly, it’s pretty much a waste. I’ve grown away from LPs, and was only keeping it because I’ve always had a LP. Truth is, it was never going to be a guitar I would reach for. Once I accepted that, there was no reason to keep it. I have no regrets. Don’t miss the LP, and having lots of fun playing my new 12-fret. Don’t hold guitars hostage. Play them or get rid of them.
 


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