taxman solo?

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  1. adelphi710

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    does anyone know how the tone on the "taxman" solo on revolver was achieved? thanks
     
  2. Ben C.

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    I don't know how THEY did it, but it sounds remarkably like my old battery-powered Marshall micro amp mic'd with an SM57.

    -Ben
     
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    didnt he record it backwards?
     
  4. trisonic

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    I believe that Macca used his Epiphone Casino into a cranked AC30.

    Best, Pete.
     
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    Who? George? Nah, it was Paul on an Esquire. Honestly!! Don't know about the amp though. They were using different types of VOXes during those days.
     
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    I'm in the middle of reading Geoff Emerick's book Here There and Everywhere - My Life Recording the Music of The Beatles. He say that george had a hard time playing many of his solos. He'd spend hours not getting them right. After having a hard time with the Taxman solo, Paul gave it a try and got it done right away. I don't remember the book going into detail of the guitar and amp on that solo.
     
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    It sounds like one of those Vox solid state amps with the weird midrangy MRB. Definitely agree that it was Paul on an Esquire.
     
  8. trisonic

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    They didn't have those amps when Taxman was recorded. Also the Esquire was acquired between then and Sgt.Pepper - there is a nice picture of him (Paul) from those sessions with his trusty Casino and the Esquire plus a Selmer Zodiac - another can of worms!

    One of the difficulties in catching the same tones as The Beatles is that they would often record some kind of backing track then overdub with it slowed down - then back up to speed etc., etc.

    Best, Pete.
     
  9. Monkey23

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    That's because Paul was the best guitar player of the three of them.
     
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    Funny how he "chose" to play bass then, huh?
     
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    Nah, he got stuck playing bass when Sutcliffe left. Paul wasn't only the best guitarist, he was the best all-around musician of the bunch, period.

    The pictures in Guitar World a few months back showed the recording gear for Revolver. Only thing besides a bass that could be Paul's is a Casino.

    Emerick's book is pretty good, so far. I'm only up to page 50.
     
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    Yeah the Selmer was on "Fixing a Hole", wasn't it?
    Sorry, almost a thread hijack.
     
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    Yeah, it was Paul on his Casino into an AC30...

    And the first solo and the solo at the end are the exact same solo - "copied and pasted" - well, flown in at the end...cause they were using Studer four tracks.
     
  14. trisonic

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    I don't know that but if you find the photo I'm referring to there is nothing else around Pauls area.

    I hear the later Voxes on Georges stuff from Penny Lane onward but as I said it's very difficult to pin stuff down on The Beatles from Rubber Soul onward because of the amount of studio manipulation. Geoff's book is an eye opener for his prejudices (some warranted) against George and Ringo and some other members of Abbey Road's staff (I don't mean the early stuff either) often just by omitting their input into the process. I enjoyed the book, however.

    Best, Pete.
     
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    that's interesting. not to digress further, but I think George is a great guitar player in his own right. I never really thought Paul was a better player, but I sometimes get confused about who's playing what on which songs. :)
     
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    George had cool stuff early on, the volume swell on You're Gonna Lose That Girl, as an example. But as for writing you gotta figure it must have been daunting for him to introduce an original, after say John walks in and says "this is what I've been working on" and then proceeds to show you In My Life, or something like that. Know what I mean?

    I would highly recommend the Beatles Complete Scores Transcribed. It's remarkably accurate and at $50, an amazing value.
     
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    I was surprised at the slams Geoff makes towards George in the book. When I watch videos and listen to live recordings, George sure sounds like he know how to play his guitar. Geoff would have you believe otherwise.

    Geoff goes on to say that often Paul would often spend all night recording the bass for just one song after the rest of the band had left. He said Paul was being a perfectionist doing a great job. Huh, sounds like he had a hard time playing his parts just like George but George gets slammed for it. Huh, WHATEVER. But I wasn't there.
     
  18. Dendog

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    2 good points.
     
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    Based on the books that I have, it does look like it must have been Paul using his Casino. However, the amp is unclear. According to Babiuk, they had just taken delivery of several new amps at the start of the Revolver sessions. One was the Vox 7120, which I think is a variation of the 120W solid state Super Beatle. They also received several Fender BF Showman amps and cabs. I think either of these, or the old AC30, could have been used for Taxman.
     
  20. trisonic

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    It's a bit of a Macca lovefest - 'cos he did go on to work with Paul apres Beatles.....

    It left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth too but he seems to moderate his view on George (but not Ringo) by the books end.

    Take this as an example of weirdness - early on he bemoans the fact that at the time Abbey Road made balance engineers (like him) wear a suit and tie, technical engineers wear white coats and maintenance staff brown coats. Fine we all agree that is absurd (outside of Classical recordings where it lasted longer for obvious reasons) - but then he pokes fun at them for wearing the coats when they were later maneuvering a heavy tape machine from one room to another - the poor guys had no choice; they become the butt of his joke.

    Best, Pete.
     

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