Teach me on 4x12 cabs

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  1. Kitarist

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    I'm really interested to buy a 4x12 cab but its kinda cheap.

    Why is like Harley benton cab only 200euro

    While Marshall is 700 euro

    Is it only because of the speakers ? or also wood ?

    Doesnt marshall also use plywood 15mm or so?

    So my main question is does the wood affect on the sound if not i'll buy the cheap 4x12 version and just swap the speakers

    Thanks again
     
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    Well i need somethin thats located in europe
     
  4. digital jams

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    13 ply wood or better, MDF or Particle board imo does not produce the tight sounds of good baltic ply.

    Cabs have to be well sealed and braced, I have had to re-seal cheaper cabs due to bad fitting joints.

    Just look for a good used cab from Bogner, Diezel, Mojo, or BX Marshall cabs.
     
  5. Groovey Records

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    Marshall Cabs are made in Great Britain, others too. Look for Vintage with non pb baffles and backs. Your right you can just replace the drivers.

    I am sure that there are new sources as well what country are you in Transsssssssssssssssylvania?

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  6. Kitarist

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    oh well seems i'll really have to go with something from mojo or somethin
     
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    You should be able to find a used Marshall for 300 euro, I'd imagine.

    Loudboy
     
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    I've got a Mojo, Marshall 1960av and Peavey 5150, all slanted. With the same speakers the Mojo and Peavey sound surprisingly equal while the Marshall is a little stiffer. No night and day differences between my cabs, speakers are the biggest factor. If you gotta be cool go Marshall. If you don't care, I'd go for the cheaper cab and get the speakers you want. Hopefully the Benton it isn't a dog though. Good luck!
     
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    Sorry don't believe that is true. For the 1960 model cabs the rear panel is MDF and some trim around the front edge is PB the rest is all 11 ply birch. They make all kinds of junk cabs for the transistor amps that are made of MDF they sound pretty dead.
     
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    I had a framus dragon 4x12 that was excellent, and should be decently priced in Europe considering their german manufacture.
     
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    no PB on me

    1985 1960a slant 4x12 with vintage greenbacks on top and 12H30's underneath. My TopHat EmplexadorII sits on top of that.

    and I don't hafta be cool its just that way man

    Dig'
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    on Vinyl records natchurally
     
  12. Kitarist

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    thanks for the information
     
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    Keep an eye out for Matamp, Orange, and Hiwatt cabs. They're all made in the UK and I'm pretty sure they're all 16-ply marine-grade birch. I've owned all of them, and aside from being a little heavy, they are fantastic cabs.

    Edit: By the way, my main cab for the last 5 years is a 1974 Hiwatt... 34 years of abuse (it's beat to hell) and still solid as a rock!
     
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    I prefer solid pine to baltic birch for the cabinet, then baltic birch for the front and back.

    How are your woodworking skills? Here's a step-by-step 1x12 I just completed, but the same construction would apply for a 4x12.

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=339284

    Mine was done in natural wood finish, but if you want to tolex it, here's an excellent tutorial from one of The Gear Page's esteemed seniors. This also includes some good tips on applying grill cloth:

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=70200&highlight=slant+recover
     
  15. Kitarist

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    Dang really not sure what should i buy now :|
     
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    +1!

    I've built open back solid pine cabinets in the past, and they do the Fender thing nicely.

    And my closed-back, birch ply Marshall slant 4x12 was dark, dark, dark - it didn't just thump - it hit you like a blunt sledge hammer.

    So I thought, what if I ENCLOSE a solid pine cab? What happened was a best-of-both-worlds scenario; clear, articulate, yet lots of tight, focused, "thump".

    And I run it in tandem with an open back combo. Very satisfying.
     
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    get what u pay for and always buy used after checking it out
     
  20. Kitarist

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    yep thats so true hehe
     

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