Tele Experts -- Ash/Rosewood?

SFLP

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I know that there has been debate about ash/rosewood as a combination and that Suhr's website says it has too much "sizzle" for most players.

It seems like Fender makes a fair number of teles with this combination though. Thus, I am wondering whether the combination is considered more desireable for a tele as opposed to a strat.

I realize all guitars are different but am curious if the tele experts have any specific experiences with this combination and, if so, whether they would recommend it. I love the feel of rosewood and the looks of ash with a blonde finish.
 

Drew816

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Swamp Ash and Rosewood for me thanks, the perfect combo for 'my tastes.' I had a '66 Transition Logo in this combo that was 'perfect' and I foolishly sold it years ago and I just had a K-Line built to those specs because that was THE Tele for me. Now I had a lot of non-standard features I wanted like a 1 5/8 nut width, mid-C profile neck with 12" radius, double notched vintage style bridge, Lollar Specials, and a tummy cut; but less demanding folks could find quite a few Tele's in this combo (or any variation there of!). Here she is and I'm LOVING this guitar!

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SFLP

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I guess what I am really wondering though is not whether I should get a maple neck, but whether I should get an ash or alder body to go with a rosewood neck. Thanks for any input.
 

jamison162

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Mmmm, yum. Speaking of ash and rosewood...I happen to have a Grosh RC in ash with brazilian rosewood board. On the way...gotta be soon, I'm anxious.
 

Mike T

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My Tele is Alder and Rosewood and I love it, but the Strat I built is Ash and Rosewood and for a Srat, it does it for me. I have Bardens on both. I would definitely consider Ash and Rosewood for a Tele.
 

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The other consideration is semi hollow ash which G&L Asat offers w/ classic Tele p/up configuaration. I love mine,it originally it had a maple /rosewood neck which I swapped w/ another player for his all maple neck. I only swapped because his neck was slightly larger than mine. I think I prefer the rosewood, but not by much. Hope that helps.
 

Berlin Chris

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I guess what I am really wondering though is not whether I should get a maple neck, but whether I should get an ash or alder body to go with a rosewood neck. Thanks for any input.

It´s hard to answer your question. I think everybody has made their own experience with certain wood combinations. That being said, I think that a rosewood board works better with an alder body in a T-style guitar. It gives a nice, warm and full sound with a slightly slower attack than the ash/maple combo.
 

jimmyj

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It's going to vary from tele to tele but I had a Muddy Waters model Tele that is ash/rosewood. Very nice clear but round tone and very tele.
I probably should have kept it but a friend asked to buy it so I sold it. :(
 

japhy

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I used to have a real slab board / ash '61 Tele . It had a VERY light body and I have never met another tele that sounded as good as that thing did.
I've been thru 10 Teles since and have never liked any as much as that one.
I sold it 11 years ago to a great player and used the money as a down payment on my house. But man , I miss that guitar.
 

Fingers

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I have a Suhr T-style with ash body & African rosewood fingerboard (maple neck) which sounds cool to me, & when I was working out the specs on the phone with John, he never tried to discourage me from that combination. Of course I was probably clear about liking highs.
 

K-Line

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Ash/Rosewood Tele= Pure Heaven! The rosewood softens the twang a bit but this combo in the bridge position is the best spank.
 

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My Anderson Hollow T Classic is has an ash top on an alder base, with a rosewood board. I'd call it more woody than bright, but it's a great tone! Interestingly, I spoke with the Suhr folks about replicating this combo in a guitar with SSC and was discouraged from combining ash with rosewood. My guess is that pickups play a huge role in determining how well the combo works. The Anderson SA pickup in the middle position of my guitar (a so-called Pete Anderson model) seems like it's made for these woods, but I can imagine others wouldn't.
 

Stubee

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Get whatever ya like. My first Fender was a '73 Ash/Maple Strat, sounded fine. Now I've got a MIM '50s Classic Tele (ash body), has Nocasters. I've had two different maple necks on it plus a RW neck. All sounded fine. I've got a '60s Classic Tele, stock Alder/RW. Sounds great. Put two different maple necks on it, too, just for kicks. Just fine. I have an alder/maple & alder/RW necked Strat, both sound neat.

My favorite guitar right now is an AV '62RI Tele, which is of course Alder/RW. Sounds just peachy.

These guitars do not all sound the same, nor am I claiming there's no difference between a maple & RW board in sound (though if there is, it hasn't shown itself to me too much in all the above neck swaps). All I mean is not to get too hung up on "what's right".

IME, I can make any of these guitars sound a heckuva lot like any of the others if I fiddle with the guitar & amp tone controls. I think those adjustments, plus pickups & pickup height adjustments, impact tone a lot.
 
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I would think "too much sizzle" is more about pickups than wood combinations. Once you have a solid idea of the tone you're after, and have selected pups designed to produce that tone, the wood combination refines that sound further. My current favorite tele's (of several) are both ash bodies; one has a one-piece maple neck with the Lollar GVCG pups, and my very favorite has a very lightweight ash body with maple/EIR neck and Glendale/Amalfitano pups. These are partscasters, whose pieces were matched to give a solid, meaty tone, with less of what I think of as a "Bakersfield twang" sound. I will probably change the bodies with each other, as the heavier body sustains better, but that's a story for another time. It's probably on over-simplification, but it seems to me pickups create tone, and tonewoods (we're discussing electrics only) refine it.
 




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