The Alt. Country Club: Thrice Revisited

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Stick to the hair metal, Bobbo... the hair metal... ;)
Bring it on! I can take it! Most painful song I've had to play - "True" by Spandau Ballet!

Hey Roman - I just watched the movie "The Third Man" - whole movie takes place in Vienna - made me miss your city. I even recognized a few places like that oldest street and Stephensplatt.
 

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You would step on it if you were covering John Waite's Missing You!!! :crazyguy
You got me! :D

Greg V just emailed me this linky. He's such a natural player Greg, so fluid and creative and lyrical.

Groov-"V"!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-SPNv6nQME

EDIT:- Sorry guys, maybe check back later. Greg has just informed me that he's uploading a version with better conversion.
 
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Hey Roman - I just watched the movie "The Third Man" - whole movie takes place in Vienna - made me miss your city. I even recognized a few places like that oldest street and Stephensplatt.
Ah, a classic! Next time you come here, you can take the "Third Man" tour throught the sewer canals underneath the city,with cheesy sound- and light-effects, and the workers there posing as bad guys...
 

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BTW, guys, I'm currently looking for something that will give me a not-too-high gain OD that sounds fuzzy on the edges, works well with a tremolo after it, and doesn't sound fat - I want something that sounds thin on purpose - Marc Ribot uses a tone like that a lot, like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUEfbCOLfqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLM0z0SdMX8
And the solo on Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegean's cover of "Ramblin' Man" is a good example, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgD-sT9rcV0 (solo starts around 1:45)

I'd rather build something myself than buy - do you think a Red Llama-clone would get me there?
 

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So, how would you describe what it does tonally?

BTW Cornbread have you ever compared your Analogman delay to the Carbon Copy? For a while I've been looking for something that is a bit more soulful than my Replica and I've been trying a CC but I find it adds a fair bit of brightness on shorter settings. I'm in line for one of the new Analogman delays.
It's really hard to describe but the EP-PRE makes everything sound sooo much better. It has been called a 'clarity booster' and for me that's what it does. Everything sounds bigger, better and clearer. I really get sparkley highs and the low end is tighter. I have the mids dialed down a little on my amp but they were slightly increased.

I had a SBEQ for a while and found it to be too subtle, the EP-Pre just made me go WOW from the beginning. It's one of those pedals that you plug in and just know it's a keeper. When I turned it off the change was dramatic. It will be on all the time and the MDEQ will probably come off the board too...freeing up a spot for another pedal :facepalm

I haven't tried a Carbon Copy yet. I've had the AR20DL for almost 2 years now and have been really happy with it.

I'd love to hear what you think of the EP-PRE compared to the Klon as a Clean Boost or an Echoplex/TTE
I have never played an Echoplex or TTE so I can't compare them. Last night I mostly used the EP-Pre as a tone enhancer and not so much a boost. Of course I did crank it up but it didn't sound like the Klon I'd played before. The Klon made everything fatter and bigger, the EP-PRE made everything clearer and bigger.

That is an awezome board, but it hurts to look at.
Ha!! Thanks and Sorry about the picture...my camera is terrible (probably me) so I went overboard with the saturation.

That's the EP-PRE doing its "magic."
That was kind of what I was going for :D





 

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BTW, guys, I'm currently looking for something that will give me a not-too-high gain OD that sounds fuzzy on the edges, works well with a tremolo after it, and doesn't sound fat - I want something that sounds thin on purpose - Marc Ribot uses a tone like that a lot, like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUEfbCOLfqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLM0z0SdMX8
And the solo on Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegean's cover of "Ramblin' Man" is a good example, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgD-sT9rcV0 (solo starts around 1:45)

I'd rather build something myself than buy - do you think a Red Llama-clone would get me there?
To me, the 1st and 3rd clip sound like amp overdrive-the second clip you could get with a Red Llama clone or an RX Overdriver-( I know someone who wants to get rid of one as well)
I know the GGG Red LLama clone are nice-I have one built by Eddie of Philosofrets-he adds two switches a fat switch and ...another-great builds great service, etc
also, great versatile sounds-the switches really make it a better pedal-in my opinion
thanks for the great Ribot clips
 

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Roman, nice Ribot clips. I agree that most of that sounds like a cranked amp. I can cop most of those tones with my Airline loaded with Valco single coils into my Silvertone. Fuzzy OD. Then a Mule for the higher fuzzy-od parts. You might look at one of the various "small cranked amp" pedals: HoneyBee, Liquid Sunshine, Ghetto Stomp, Gainster, etc. for the lower gain stuff. I really loved the Liquid Sunshine > Mule stack. Both were similarly voiced, but the Mule had more gain. Together they put me into Neil Young territory.
 

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BTW, guys, I'm currently looking for something that will give me a not-too-high gain OD that sounds fuzzy on the edges, works well with a tremolo after it, and doesn't sound fat - I want something that sounds thin on purpose - Marc Ribot uses a tone like that a lot, like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUEfbCOLfqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLM0z0SdMX8
And the solo on Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegean's cover of "Ramblin' Man" is a good example, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgD-sT9rcV0 (solo starts around 1:45)

I'd rather build something myself than buy - do you think a Red Llama-clone would get me there?
I've had a Mule and it sounded great, but it's a one-sound pedal, and I found it hard to set everything else to work around that one sound. I traded it and got a Colorsound Overdriver clone by Throbak. I think it's great for those fuzz/OD tones and super tweakable. I find I like its germanium setting better than the true-to-the-original silicon setting. Not cheap, though.
 

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Roman, nice Ribot clips. I agree that most of that sounds like a cranked amp. I can cop most of those tones with my Airline loaded with Valco single coils into my Silvertone. Fuzzy OD. Then a Mule for the higher fuzzy-od parts. You might look at one of the various "small cranked amp" pedals: HoneyBee, Liquid Sunshine, Ghetto Stomp, Gainster, etc. for the lower gain stuff. I really loved the Liquid Sunshine > Mule stack. Both were similarly voiced, but the Mule had more gain. Together they put me into Neil Young territory.
Thanks everybody who answered - so, you guys think it's amp OD? Not an option for me, as I need a 100% clean tone live a lot, and don't want to carry a second amp...
Guess I gotta head over to Runoffgroove and listen to their soundclips of amp-circuit based pedals again, maybe something will fit the bill...
 
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Prof.Fuzz

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Check out the ROG Supreaux circuit. I built a kit of this from OLC and it's a pretty cool little Supro-sounding dirt box. Not quite as much gain as what I'm hearing in the Ribot clips, but you might dig it.
 

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I'm getting to like this one now.

It takes a bit of tweaking with all those mini toggles but there a great range of tones in there.

My practice rig this week has become Flex Drive > Carbon Copy > Radiotone Amp

 

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As for something completely different: Just got back from tonight's gig of Eleni Mandell's gig here in Vienna, and it was even better than last year's (though the sound man should be fired for turning the guitar down way too low, and those two friggin Hungarians blabbering gibberish through half of the gig should die a slow and painful death...)
In case you don't know here, check her out, she's not only a great songwriter but also has a voice that I like evn better than Neko Case's; oh, and her current guitar player, Jeremy Drake, is great, too (I think he has collaborated with Nels Cline and a bunch of other guys before).
Big fan here! I've seen Eleni twice, both times in the same small club. She's fabulous live. Tom Waits is a huge influence but her songs head off in many directions, all of it good. Country for True Lovers is probably the best starting point for alt-country heads, followed by Afternoon and the rest. That reminds me, it's about time I picked up Artificial Fire...
 
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