The best 12 inch Loudspeaker for Jazz Guitar ?

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  1. BryanMatthews

    BryanMatthews Member

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    for superlative warm, fat and chiming clean, 6v6 or el84 , jazz guitar tones. which speaker would you recommend ?

    Bryan
     
  2. jumpnblues

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    1. Weber Ceramic California with paper cap or, 2. Scumback H75 (not quite as clean as the "Cali" but very sweet sounding speaker) or other Celestion G12H30 based speaker. There are other Webers that would work very well too...12A125 (P12Q), 12F150 (C12N), or 12F125 (C12Q).


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    The Eminence Tonker comes to mind.
     
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    What wattage?
     
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    Eminence Swamp Thang, or Tonker as mentioned above.
     
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    +1 for the Jensen Neo. Depends on the enclosure though for a final choice.
     
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    +2 for the Jensen Neo
     
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    Another vote for the Jensen Neo.
     
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    I like the hemp cone for jazz.
    i have a tone tubby and a cannabis rex and they are so fat and juicy.
     
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    +1 for the C-Rex, great speaker.
     
  12. BryanMatthews

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    I forgot to say that my speaker cab is closed back 2x12 , what speaker would you say now for those jazz cleans.

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    Rich Raezer (maker of Raezer's Edge cabs) voiced his cabinets specifically for jazz and he used the Eminence Delta 12A. These are closed-back cabs and are quite popular with jazz guitarists; I have a Stealth 12 and it sounds great.
     
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    It really depends on the amp, guitar, and pickups that you are using. Also, what kind of cab wood & config is a huge part of it. The combination of all the elements really matters. A lot of players just go out and get something because they heard it was good or because they liked it when someone else was using it. I believe that there is usually one and sometimes two best speaker choices for each person's hands and rig. Lastly, what kind of Jazz tone that you are looking for. Bop that is dark, clean fusion w/ some chime, etc. As you know, most EL84 and 6V6 amps do not have pronounced lows for a typical Jazz tone. Some guys want traditional tones with lots of clean headroom. You really need a 6L6 based amp to do that. The Delta Pro is cool, kind of a good alternative for an EV guy. However, you really need to have a higher wattage 6L6 amp to push those speakers, for them to do their thing. Neo and Alnico speakers tend to compress on the low end and don't have a lot of low end presence from 50 to 200 HZ. So, you bass notes will not really be defined, which drives many Jazz guys nuts. Matching amp wattage to speaker wattage is a really under rated thing (no pun intended). A 30 watt amp into a 200 watt speaker is usually not the best choice. Sorry for the rant, my opinions are based on helping hundreds of guys with this stuff over the past 10 years. I hope my advice was helpful.
     
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    Yeah, I would agree


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    +1 for the Weber Cali, though I personally prefer the Alnico version - yep, even in a closed back config. Jensens and Weber's clones of these are darker and have more character, as is the Thames (one of which I have on order now - they're on sale, btw.)
     
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    Espec. when we're talking clean power, as we are doing here. For distorted there's no negative going with 1.5x or 2x the rated clean power.
     
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    I kinda' wondered about that. Good point.


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