The continuing saga of death of live music

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  1. aiq

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    The Sex Pistols started out at Prets and Greggs.
     
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    Live entertainment is really unappreciated these days it's a shame of what it's become:(
     
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    Its the classic tale of people moving into a vibrant area because of the arts scene, then killing the arts scene by demanding suburban levels of quiet. Makes me insane.
     
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    Exactly.

    Everybody is melting these days.
     
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    My city are looking at legislation to stop that.
     
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    You just described DC gentrification.
     
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    I’m still blaming tribute bands.
     
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    I have no doubt it suffers some in the age of streaming media, especially in places with smaller populations.

    But I see as much or more live music these days as I ever have, of an even wider variety than I ever have, too.

    And, the bulk of those shows are at smaller and unpretentious venues and cost me less than $30/ea.

    Granted, that's in places like Austin, Dallas, Denver, New Orleans, Phoenix, and of course the East/West coasts.

    So, my take is - yes, it's surely technically true that it's less common, but there is still TONS out there.

    Right now. Last week. Last month. Last year. I'm past 500 paid concerts in my life (since the late 70s), fwiw.

    I'm not even counting free shows, bars with free music, or the vast majority of Club nights and DJ shows I've seen.

    People in rural areas, or those with narrow tastes, probably have it rough. But that's not been my experience...
     
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    The phonograph record
    Radio
    TV
    The synthesizer

    Those four technologies killed live music.
     
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    Funny that live music reached its peak in the 80s then...
     
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    Probably a small town thing. The cities that I work from and live in all have very vibrant venues for live music across all genres.

    I also think live shows on a weekly/biweekly basis are becoming a thing of the past. Online representation and branding are the main thing now. Live shows should act as a trailer to the whole movie. An originals band or artist whose gigging in the same city three or four times a month is just kicking tires or want a consistent paycheque. Nothing wrong with that. But those hoping to make music into a career are focusing more on showcases and events than a seasonal residency at Sneaky Dee’s.
     
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    exactly what has been happening in "Music City" (Nashville) the past couple of years. Many live venues lost. No more busking on lower Broadway with battery powered amps (without risking a ticket). FWIW, I am seeing former professional musicians making runs for council positions, so it may be turning around. But much damage has been done.

    It's ironic that R. Branson is building a friggin massive hotel at the entrance to Music Row; his reason being that he loves the music vibe of the area. And he is helping destroy the vibe. How uncool is that?
     
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    You forgot the electric amplifier.
     
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    While it’s harder in most venues to crank a half stack, there’s no shortage of live music. and the synth did not kill live music. A synth Is another tool in the bag that allows people to create unique sounds.
     
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    "And then we'll need to find a couple horn guys.."
    "I can cover that on my keyboard!"
    "PROFIT!!"
     
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    The biggest new movie on Earth is full of classic rock. Psst: It ain't dead..just not easy to spot from the couch. Maybe they are no good at it in Derby.
     
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    While plugins are getting closer, nothing beats the sound or ascetic of a band/product with horns. if those parts can be played convincingly with another tool, and the person is still physically playing the part, it’s still being played by a human being. The synth can’t walk on stage and play by itself. Maybe the timbre isn’t the best/the player doesn’t know how to make their gear sound good, but they’re still playing.
     
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    What a bunch of Drama queens. The following statement in particular -

    “Everyone’s feeling a bit lost,” she told the Guardian. “It was a pivotal
    part of the Sheffield music scene and a big place for the whole community
    to come together and meet. It’s just an irreplaceable venue.”


    The whole community??? It's a Maximum 200 person venue. That's not the
    'Whole Community' by any stretch of the imagination.

    And then this statement says what's actually going on:

    But while former owner David Poole-Burley blamed “extortionate rates”,
    he also says there was a lack of support from the local community.
    “People don’t seem to want to pay for music. There’s no openings

    and a lot of bands are young ones that never really got any support.
    I think music is poorly supported in Derby.”


    The Youngsters still go to EDM events (or whatever it's called these days).
    IMO that's because EDM is progressing - where as most of the rest of music is
    not. Whatever HipHop/R&B is called is stagnating badly - same beats,
    same music, same ideas.

    And then there is this misguided gem from the article;
    Gaz Peacham pointed to licensing laws and changing drinking habits, adding:
    “There’s been a lot of love for the place and great sadness, which is how we
    feel too, but it’s the right decision. It’s not good for our health anymore.


    IMO Kids and adults are not going to clubs because they are worried about their
    health - they are bored with alcohol - and many people are using quite different
    drugs - and they aren't any fun to do in a Slug Club with mopey drunks. So they
    go to events and happenings where practically everyone is on the same wavelength
    and consuming similar pharmaceuticals.
     
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    It doesn't matter if sounds as good, just that it sounds good enough.
    Plus, you don't have to pay two or three more guys to play single notes.
    Plus: "Since we're already playing to a click track, I can just use sampled horn tracks!! It's almost as if the synth is playing itself!!"
    See also: string sections.
     
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