The Firebird Thread

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  1. T Dizz

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    Absolutely. I put a Kent Armstrong neck pickup in it, which is a proper Firebird style construction but it overwhelmed the bridge pickup a touch.
    I eventually put a Mojo (UK) goldfoil in the neck position and that made for a perfectly balanced guitar, both pickups sounding excellent with the same amp setting.

    The Epiphone bridge pickup is a beauty isn't it? I can believe how good they sound, given how average their conventional humbuckers usually are.
     
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    Here's my 2017 Firebird T. I replaced the pickups with some Alnico V's from Buddha Pickups on Reverb (reasonably priced and sound great), and wired it so both volumes are on top like they did in the old days. Also, gold reflectors, because gold reflectors. This and my OBG LP standard are about all I play these days.

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    That is exactly what I would like! Cool.

    Also this:

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    Played one of these not too long ago...had a set neck without a raised center section so I guess it's technically a Fauxbird.

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    What did you think of it?
    Guessing much more similar to an LP

    Think one with silver hardware would be pretty cool
     
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    To me it was not about shape or construction although that may in fact be a factor but it was mini humbuckers - I almost went a goldtop with minis, but never having seen Winter do that and he was the inspiration for the tone I was after I decided to stick to the FB.
    Wonder what drew him to it?

    D'uh
    Winter described the tone:

    "The Firebird is the best of all worlds. It feels like a Gibson, but it sounds closer to a Fender than most other Gibsons. I was never a big fan of humbucking pickups, but the mini humbuckers on the Firebird have more bite and treble."
     
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    I have no need for another guitar but I want a non reverse Firebird one day and this fellow is why
     
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    If somebody told me I could buy only one more guitar for the rest of my life, it would be a Kauer Banshee, hands down. I'd love to have one, but I just can't justify the cost right now, no matter how much I try to persuade myself that I could.

    EDIT: After further reflection, it would be a toss up between a Banshee and a Potvin Jupiter if I could only ever buy one guitar for the rest of my life.

    http://potvinguitars.com/models/jupiter/
     
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    Dude --- how would you describe the way in which the tone of guitar changed as a result of the pick up replacement that you did?
     
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    I'd describe it as having more of a vintage output/character. Also, they're more "jangly" and clear like a single coil rather than a humbucker, along with some added mid range. To my ears the stock pickups were shrill and voiced for higher gain and didn't have much in the way of mid range. Overall I'd say it's somewhere between a slightly thinner Les Paul sound and slightly thicker strat sound.

    I asked the winder to voice them as close as he could to a vintage PAF while using traditional Firebird bar magnets. I think he hit the nail on the head, given the completely different construction of Firebird pickups vs. regular humbuckers.
     
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    Thanks! I like the idea that these PUPs are a little thicker. Maybe I was wrong to have this expectation about the Firebird tone, but I was hoping for a sound closer to a Tele sound than a Strat. I have a Tele with a Fender Vintage Noiseless at the bridge and it sounds great to my ears. If could have the Firebird playability with that Tele tone, that would be a fantastic combo for me.
     
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    I'm hoping I'll get to actually keep one of these. I think I want to build a green burst with a maple top for myself to replace the Banshee that UPS destroyed.
     
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    If you have the $, I'm sure Kauer could build you whatever you want. I know that RS Guitarworks made a teebyrd a few years back that sounds like it would be right up your alley.

    http://rebel-guitars.com/rs-guitarworks-teebyrd-butterscotch-blonde/
     
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  15. Scary Uncle G.

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    That’s really nice BUT, to me, the essential feature of a reverse Firebird is the neck-thru-body design. With a bolt on neck that’s just a weird shaped Telecaster with a Firebird neck pickup.
     
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    Trying to get around to a full group pic... meanwhile '65 & '77

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    Yes, but it's a really cool weird shaped telecaster with Firebird neck pickup.
     
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    Studio?
     
  19. Scary Uncle G.

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    Hey, did I say it wasn’t cool?
     
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    My 2002 CS Non Reverse

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    I love this guitar. I want to add another CS NR with FB minis. Then a traditional Reverse model. I previously owned a 1995 Reverse FB V.
     
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