"The FM3 Can't Run More Than 6 Blocks"

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  1. Leon Todd

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    Didn't want to derail another thread so I'll post this for the times it inevitably gets cited again.

    It can. See examples below.




    Yes, the reverb uses more CPU than other blocks but you can lower the 'echo density" parameter and it saves quite a bit of CPU when needed.

    Also, you can do heaps with 4 blocks

     
  2. timbuck2

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    well if you need more then get the axefx3-simple solution.
     
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    More skateboard videos, please.
     
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    Please do not assault our self righteous outrage with positivity and helpful suggestions; it is impacting our self esteem. Thx.
     
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    Derails are where it's at!
     
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    Who said it can’t run more than 6 blocks? I’ve got mine running with like 7, and it’s at 68%.
     
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  7. JiveTurkey

    JiveTurkey Trumpets and Tants Supporting Member

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    What's the CPU load at say; delay, reverb, synth, maybe phaser and or chorus blocks running at their highest settings?
     
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    ABORT, ABORT!!! She's breaking up Captain, she's breaking up!!!
     
  9. JiveTurkey

    JiveTurkey Trumpets and Tants Supporting Member

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    :roll
     
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    I've always used light delay in place of Reverb, especially live and I even do that with real pedals.
    However, if I want to do an ambient thang I lay on the verb and dedicate patches to my ambient specialty configurations.
    I think you can get clever to eek as much out of the FM3 (or AX8) as you want, but agree that "kitchen sink" presets which many people like to build are obviously harder with the FM3 (AX8).
    To each his or her own, right tool for the job, etc.
     
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    I remember being mildly frustrated when I first got my FM3 that so many of the default presets actually had what I perceived to be too many blocks loaded. They were always chock full of phasers, wah, flangers and other stuff I almost never use, which would inevitably spike the CPU to near capacity levels. The idea that it "only" did 6 blocks or whatever never entered my mind. I actually wanted less!

    But then, I tried building a few rigs from scratch. What I found to be even more frustrating was going through the trouble of dialing in a few Scenes for clean, crunch and lead and realizing that I still had a lot of CPU left over to play with. Then, I would wonder "Wouldn't it be cool if I threw in a scene of cool dotted 8th delay or vibe or octave-y distortion "just in case" for the occasional cool rhythm variant?"

    I'd throw it in, then realize I have go and disengage it on all of the other Scenes and resave them. So now, I try to start patches with one of everything, but disengaged....just in case.

    The TL;DR version of this is that the FM3 has plenty of blocks available, and they all have channels which make them "multi-blocks within a block".
     
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  12. JiveTurkey

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    Vid in the OP sounds ridiculous as well :drink
     
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    the biggest hogs are Reverb
    Pitch , plex delay (shimmer)
    And then drive blocks

    running a verb in Ultra high
    Will cost about 35-36%
    Quad Pitch about 20%
    Basic amp cab Stereo in/out blocks about 14%

    so an Amp , stereo IR
    Full quality verb quad pitch
    And drive pedal would get you pretty close to 80% warning
     
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    Leon’s video proves it pays to know what you’re doing :eek: That’s a lot of options for just four blocks.
     
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    If the FM3 could run 50 Plex delay blocks at 50% CPU and cost $20 there would still be people complaining about it not being powerful enough to meet their needs, and costing too much.

    ...And complaining about it not being a replacement for their AX8
     
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    Ive had very little problems building semi-complex presets on the FM3. And I haven’t even begun using Leon-level creative tricks.
     
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    He’s showing it’s NOT true.
     
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    With reverb on the highest setting, blocks certainly seemed limited... but the bonus was that I'd never use most of them with a guitar (phaser... flanger... chorus... rotary) so dirt+delay+reverb and a couple of others always seemed doable.
     
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    I know people's mileage vary on this, but I've never understood the desire for loud, super hi-fi dense reverb.
     
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    I don’t remember changing the quality of settings for reverb, but the reverts are amazing right now, so I’m not concerned.
     

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