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The genius of Brian Wilson and his quintessential Southern California accent

Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by mrbungel, May 24, 2011.

  1. mrbungel

    mrbungel Member

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    Is there a Southern California accent?
    Seriously, most of us know certain American accents,
    is California different?
    Not the specific surfer vernacular like "dude" or "shoot the curl"
    or other terms that have been popular in the recent past
    or the distant past, but a specific way of speaking.

    I guess my point is, Brian Wilson was born and raised in SoCal,
    and he still has that "Beach Boys" tone in his speaking voice, in his music and singing.
    Being a SoCal boy myself, I was wondering if others have
    thought about the "SoCal" accent.

    In simpler words, I have always had a strong attachment to Brian
    and his music, with or without the Beach Boys.
    Deeper than the "surf" songs, much beauty and much sadness,
    he is an American original.
    It's impossible to separate the man from the music.
    So, after this little ode, I'm just sayin that I love Brian.
    He has had a strange and wonderful life.

    When he speaks, it's like music,
    repetitive bursts of little gems.
    "I was dizzy, I got dizzy...........I felt dizzy."
    Then he laughs, not the long and loud laugh of a young man.
    It's the short and quiet laugh of a jaded old man,
    but still, after all he has lived thru, a laugh just the same.
    I'm amazed at the complexity and simplicity of the guy.

    I think most of us are better people because of Brian Wilson
    and his music, he has given us so many gifts.

    Let's go surfin now.................
    Columnated ruins domino................................
     
  2. Hank Linderman

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    "Columnated ruins domino..."

    Van Dyke Parks


    Best...H
     
  3. mrbungel

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    Yep and thanks, I should have mentioned Van Dyke, Brian's lyrics were always great, but Parks' words were transcendent, lovely and bizarre and brilliant.

    "SMILE" should be required listening for any music fan.
     
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    Yes, even excluding the Latin American influence. The 'r' sound here is rounder than in the flat English mid-west. Lots and lots of 'uptones
    at the end of sentences...everything is a question?

    I never got Brian Wilson, but the rest of your post makes me think I should give him another go.
     
  5. cmc2878

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    I hear it a lot in the female celebs of the day.

    To me, Kim Kardashian, Katy Perry and Paris Hilton all have a very similar accent. I've even noticed it in a female friend from Orange County.
     
  6. Rotten

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    I've often thought about this. There is a California accent and it typically doesn't sound very good singing, although it has become part of the surf sound because of the Beach Boys. I noticed that most California singers adopt some other accent when they sing, whether it's Southern, African-American, or even English. John Fogerty's speaking voice sounds nothing like his Bayou-affected vocal. Even Robert Cray sounds like a middle-class professor when he speaks.

    I'm not sure if your topic is Brian Wilson or California accents, but that's my 2 cents anyway.
     
  7. Peteyvee

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    We don't have accents! The Californian "accent" people claim to hear is the lack of an accent.

    Well OK, once I was in Boston hanging with my cousins and their friends and I pointed out how they were pronouncing "park" like "pawk", "car" like "caw", etc. and said I love their NE accents. They looked at me like I was nuts and said "Oh, look at Petey tawk. He said "party" and "park the car", instead of "pawty" and "pawk da caw". I just slinked away...
     
  8. scottlr

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    Iowans don't think they have an accent, either. Well, I came here from Texas, and they do indeed have an accent.

    I love accents. I find them very interesting.
     
  9. mrbungel

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    Good point there.
    I've always tried to put that into words,
    and you're correct....maybe.
    We have no accent, probably because
    California was the last place in America to be populated by settlers/pioneers.
    So, we're gonna have a big quake and fall into the Pacific and all that crap.
    I appreciate your thoughts and wanna say this.
    Don't confuse older CA accents with the newer 80's Valley Girl **** (although that is a legit point). I do think it has become the "new" California speak. But, before the valley girl accent, CA had it's own.

    What EVAR, TOTALLY, AWESOME.

    Let's talk about Brian Wilson some more, OK?
    No?

    What evar!
     
  10. medrawt

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    Singing accents vs speaking accents is a funny thing. If I pronounce things when singing the way I would when I speak them, it almost automatically sounds like I'm singing country music - or almost like I'm parodying it. I grew up in Massachusetts (and then California in high school) and have the sort of "generic American" accent people think isn't an accent, so it's not a Southern thing. (Everything's an accent, of course, but if you really know what to listen for, you can tell I grew up in the Northeast, even though I don't sound like what people think people from Bawston sound like.)
     
  11. Rotten

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    Italians have it made; they can sing and talk with the same accent.
     
  12. tkozal

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    Read "The Story of English". There is a west coast accent, but primarily up in wash and ore where new england and LI whalers moved. SoCal is more no accent, but it derives from the midwest speech of central, Illinois, Iowa and nebraska. A touch of the south came in during the dust bowl.
     
  13. Soul Man

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    So true. I would never put the voice with the face, LOL.
     
  14. re-animator

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    yes, we have accents. actual factual.

    we're also the best looking people ever.
     
  15. cob666

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    I grew up in Boston and it's pahk not pawk; pahk the cah in hahvid yahd...
     
  16. rogwerks

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    born and raised...

    viva hawthorne, viva whiitier, good friend of mine used 2 live right around the corner from da boys..., he actually saw the piano in the sand-box!!

    no accent here...

    Native Southern Californians are well, Native...

    Anyone that remembers Japanese Deearpark Or Busch Gardens... native fo sho!

    Southern Califronia, no other place like it...
     
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    I was sitting with my wife in a bar at the Stardust Casino. We were with a couple from England. At one point during the conversation my wife said, "I love your accents." at which point they looked at her kind of strange. I explained to her that the name of the language is ENGLISH. We were the ones with the accents.

    There are several different SoCal accents. It depends more on your social circle than your location
     
  18. Baxtercat

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    Yeah, that's more like it.
    "Pepperidge Fahm."
    "Err, Teddy on the ocarina."
     
  19. musicofanatic5

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    Yes, please do not confuse Valley Girl talk with a standatde So Cal accent. I'm not sure what it is either, but I came up around first and second generation Arkies and Okies in So Cal, and have some sort of hillbilly accent. I moved to the midwest in 7th grade and was told I had a Calif accent. People sometimes ask me if I'm from Arkansas now, but that's because I live near Boston. It's all a matter of perspective!

    More OT, growing up in So Cal in the fifties/sixties I was raised on the surf music/Beach Boys sound (and Fender gtrs, natch!), and later in life played with Van Dyke Parks. That is near the top of my resume!!
     

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