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Chandyland

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Minstrel = somewhat of a Jester with a FET boost PRIOR, correct?
You can think of it that way. It's basically just a 3 gain stage overdrive where the first gain stage (the one that doesn't really distort much) is a JFET stage.

I believe the original Minstrel was a 4 gain stage overdrive with 2 tubes where the last stage was effectively the same as the Jester boost circuit turned to unity gain, so it was very similar to a Jester with the boost always on.

When Simon revised his pedal lineup with the current DC power supply, he made the Minstrel what it is now. I believe the current design was intended to be as close as possible to the sound of the original Minstrel but with the understanding that 1 tube pushed by a JFET stage will definitely sound different than 2 tubes.
 

rambleon

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To each their own, but using Kingsley preamps has totally changed my life
Agreed. I've been through various versions of his regular OD pedals and all I'm left with is the Constable preamp and the Jouster V2 pushing that. Don't get me wrong, I love all the Kingsleys I've played but I can't justify having then sit around unplayed when I could sell them to fund other purchases.
 

sonichronic

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I used to be apart of the preamp mob... though I gave em up for two glorious amps that make me drool daily.

my next order (which I can actually make soon here as I postponed waiting for jouster enclosures) is going to bring me into the OD club because I'm making a new pedalboard.

btw... I haven't been here to visit the club in awhile.
I heard somewhere that the jouster was completely nixed can someone confirm? @ToneIsKing55
'cause if it was, I guess I'm not waiting for anything and I can go ahead and make my order.

also
who has the Bard?
I'm falling in love with Harmonic tremolo and I'm hoping buying a Bard will stop me from buying a Brownface amp.
 

leonelh7

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I used to be apart of the preamp mob... though I gave em up for two glorious amps that make me drool daily.

my next order (which I can actually make soon here as I postponed waiting for jouster enclosures) is going to bring me into the OD club because I'm making a new pedalboard.

btw... I haven't been here to visit the club in awhile.
I heard somewhere that the jouster was completely nixed can someone confirm? @ToneIsKing55
'cause if it was, I guess I'm not waiting for anything and I can go ahead and make my order.

also
who has the Bard?
I'm falling in love with Harmonic tremolo and I'm hoping buying a Bard will stop me from buying a Brownface amp.
What amps did you get? I will be getting the Bard next week, so I will let you know.
 

ToneIsKing55

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I used to be apart of the preamp mob... though I gave em up for two glorious amps that make me drool daily.

my next order (which I can actually make soon here as I postponed waiting for jouster enclosures) is going to bring me into the OD club because I'm making a new pedalboard.

btw... I haven't been here to visit the club in awhile.
I heard somewhere that the jouster was completely nixed can someone confirm? @ToneIsKing55
'cause if it was, I guess I'm not waiting for anything and I can go ahead and make my order.

also
who has the Bard?
I'm falling in love with Harmonic tremolo and I'm hoping buying a Bard will stop me from buying a Brownface amp.
I don’t believe he nixed the Jouster. I think he’s just not offering it until it can be redesigned, but I’ve got a feeling that’s going to be a ways down the road, so you may want to go ahead and order something off the current menu and hop on the list for when the Jouster might be available.

I picked up a Bard a bit ago and love it. It’s a tube bias trem though, not a harmonic trem. The depth knob range is the only issue I have with it (I wish it was narrower as it goes from barely noticeable to really choppy in a short distance). Sounds absolutely amazing though
 

BerkeleyJones

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I'm starting to think the Jester I tried was a dud. That pedal had no gain whatsoever. I'll probably get a custom in a month or so and I'll know for sure.
May have been? Jester mode 3, to my ears, is a fire breather. Simon claims the new Jester is the pedal with the MOST available gain. I’d have to have someone else confirm? But of course we all hear different things, such is life!
 

poppy527

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Recently got a Maiden BF and compared it to my squire BF. Wow !! BOTH sound incredible. Even though they have the common Blackface foundation, they are different.

The Maiden definitely offers more flexibility with the mid control, volume / master and eq lift, yet the Squire is so simple as a plug/play and has a special round sweetness to it.

I've only had a day or so with both, yet, I am going to have a hard time deciding which to keep. Who knows, maybe I'll keep both ( one for live board and the other for the home studio.

Anyone else have experience playing both the Squire BF / Maiden BF ??
 

Montroller

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Recently got a Maiden BF and compared it to my squire BF. Wow !! BOTH sound incredible. Even though they have the common Blackface foundation, they are different.

The Maiden definitely offers more flexibility with the mid control, volume / master and eq lift, yet the Squire is so simple as a plug/play and has a special round sweetness to it.

I've only had a day or so with both, yet, I am going to have a hard time deciding which to keep. Who knows, maybe I'll keep both ( one for live board and the other for the home studio.

Anyone else have experience playing both the Squire BF / Maiden BF ??
I’m currently on the list for the Maiden bf but am thinking I may go Squire. While emailing Simon he said the internals on the Squire are closest to a Princeton or Deluxe Reverb. I’m a simple guy and if I can get that sweet bf tone from a more basic package, I’m all in. Not sure the mids knob would be worth while for me since none of the amps it is intended to emulate have one.
 

cbm

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On distinction between the Squire series and the Maiden series that is often overlooked is the addition of the Master control on the Maiden. On the Squire, once you crank the preamp to get it really cooking, the output is screaming hot.

If what you're after is a Fender on, say 2-4, the Squire is great, but if you like the sound of a Fender with the input cranked up, the Squire can be harder to tame than the Maiden.
 

axdxm

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On distinction between the Squire series and the Maiden series that is often overlooked is the addition of the Master control on the Maiden. On the Squire, once you crank the preamp to get it really cooking, the output is screaming hot.

If what you're after is a Fender on, say 2-4, the Squire is great, but if you like the sound of a Fender with the input cranked up, the Squire can be harder to tame than the Maiden.
Great point! I had ideas that you could always add mids by backing off the Treble and Bass on the Squire and compensating with the volume control (or the inverse for subtracting) so I was thinking of getting a Squire if I couldn't find a Maiden. But the Master Volume feature would actually be extremely useful to me.
 

axdxm

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This is something I threw together just as a quick n dirty demo. For home recording, I have been using the Constable into a Two Notes CAB direct into the computer (traditional Preamp into Power Amp/Cab Sim). For the hell of it, I tried using the Minstrel alone as a Preamp into the CAB (w/CAB input setting as "Line Level" in instead of Guitar Level) and I am loving it! It doesn't make any sense, because the Minstrel is guitar level out, but I was surprised at how great this combination worked. The EQ range on the Minstrel is so extreme, it is so easy to dial in whatever you are shooting for. For the demo (please don't judge, lol) I tried to show some of the versatility of some different sounds from each section. I have had a problem with other recording direct solutions, because the pick attack and palm muting are usually weird. With the Minstrel, I had absolutely none of these problems and the touch sensitivity and reactivity with the CAB made it extremely fun. I actually ran the bass through the Minstrel/CAB as well. Enjoy!
 

Vishnu

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May have been? Jester mode 3, to my ears, is a fire breather. Simon claims the new Jester is the pedal with the MOST available gain. I’d have to have someone else confirm? But of course we all hear different things, such is life!
BeeJay

That's interesting that you say that. I have had the Jester V2 for some time and recently upgraded to the custom and don't ever recall the V2 havin' this amount of gain

I think I said in one of my early custom reports that i did not remember the gain on V2 to be so high

Must look into this. The same thing happened though with the Harlot V3 i got,i thought there was more gain but was just my imagination
 




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