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BerkeleyJones

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Wow, what a sound. Loved it. Can we get a picture of your pedals with the settings. Particularly interested in how you are setting your v3 harlot as a boost.
Thanks man, the Jester just loves p90's!

I had the Jester in mode 2, with B/M/T around 11am, 1-2pm, and 11am, respectively.
The harlot was essentially all dials at noon, maybe gain dialed back a bit and volume pushed a bit. Both toggles in the middle position, and tone right around 1pm.

The clip began with the neck pup at around 3-4 on the guitar volume, then bridge pup on 10 with tone just slightly rolled off.
 

blackba

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Thanks man, the Jester just loves p90's!

I had the Jester in mode 2, with B/M/T around 11am, 1-2pm, and 11am, respectively.
The harlot was essentially all dials at noon, maybe gain dialed back a bit and volume pushed a bit. Both toggles in the middle position, and tone right around 1pm.

The clip began with the neck pup at around 3-4 on the guitar volume, then bridge pup on 10 with tone just slightly rolled off.
Thanks, will have to try my v1.5 harlot pushing my jester. I have found that the jester and page love my rickenbacker 360/6, closest thing I have to p90s unfortunately.
 

Daprofessor

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Wow, what a sound. Loved it. Can we get a picture of your pedals with the settings. Particularly interested in how you are setting your v3 harlot as a boost.
Sounds great. Are the Kingsley's being used as pre amps into a power amp? If not, what amp is being used?
 

Daprofessor

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I will be using a Maiden D and a Page Ds as preamps into a power amp. If I place a chorus and analog delay after the Kingsley pedals prior to the power amp, would the signal be too hot for the chorus and delay?
 

MeisterD

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I will be using a Maiden D and a Page Ds as preamps into a power amp. If I place a chorus and analog delay after the Kingsley pedals prior to the power amp, would the signal be too hot for the chorus and delay?
I haven’t had issues running a Maiden BF with Page DS into strymon el cap and flint into a Seymour Duncan PS170. Haven’t tried modulation in between the Kingsleys and Strymons though.
 

leighianson

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First report from the new stack of Kingsley’s that came in a few days ago.

They all sound brilliant obviously and work well into all three of my current amps.

The Serf sounds marvellous and I’ve found the hotter setting is really great for adding just a bit of volume and bite to a clean sound. The other settings are great but I just love the tone of the hotter setting.

The Constable took a little bit of tweaking to get used to, I’m using it FOA, but now I’ve got it dialled in it is the best 2nd stage drive I’ve ever played and has a perfect amount of warmth and cut. I’ve also found that I have to run the bass down quite a bit.

The Bard is everything I’ve wanted out of a trem, smooth, addictive and able to boost the volume. From the moment I turned it on it was pretty awe inspiring.

As a side note, the Constable into the Page is a wonderful tone
 

ToneIsKing55

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First report from the new stack of Kingsley’s that came in a few days ago.

They all sound brilliant obviously and work well into all three of my current amps.

The Serf sounds marvellous and I’ve found the hotter setting is really great for adding just a bit of volume and bite to a clean sound. The other settings are great but I just love the tone of the hotter setting.

The Constable took a little bit of tweaking to get used to, I’m using it FOA, but now I’ve got it dialled in it is the best 2nd stage drive I’ve ever played and has a perfect amount of warmth and cut. I’ve also found that I have to run the bass down quite a bit.

The Bard is everything I’ve wanted out of a trem, smooth, addictive and able to boost the volume. From the moment I turned it on it was pretty awe inspiring.

As a side note, the Constable into the Page is a wonderful tone
Clips?!?!?
 

ToneIsKing55

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I will be using a Maiden D and a Page Ds as preamps into a power amp. If I place a chorus and analog delay after the Kingsley pedals prior to the power amp, would the signal be too hot for the chorus and delay?
Depends on the pedal. I had some pedals that didn’t do well with it and had to change them out or move them before the preamps. My Echoczar in particular had big issues, so I moved to a Tonal Recall which does great. Digital pedals tend to do better. Simon is coming out with a buffered effects loop pedal in the future to address the issue, but it’s going to be a while before it’s out.
 

Daprofessor

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Depends on the pedal. I had some pedals that didn’t do well with it and had to change them out or move them before the preamps. My Echoczar in particular had big issues, so I moved to a Tonal Recall which does great. Digital pedals tend to do better. Simon is coming out with a buffered effects loop pedal in the future to address the issue, but it’s going to be a while before it’s out.
I was thinking of using a Boss DC-2W into an Analogman ARDX20 delay. If I go into the Boss (digital) unit first, would the Analog Delay be ok?
 

ToneIsKing55

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I was thinking of using a Boss DC-2W into an Analogman ARDX20 delay. If I go into the Boss (digital) unit first, would the Analog Delay be ok?
ARDX20 is a great delay.
I believe @BerkeleyJones has run his after a Maiden, and also a Constable. IIRC it worked well for him, but I’ll let him chime in himself.

I know that it didn’t matter what I put in front of the Echoczar, it didn’t like coming after a preamp.
 
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BerkeleyJones

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ARDX20 is a great delay.
I believe @BerkeleyJones has run his after a Maiden, and also a Constable. IIRC it worked well for him, but I’ll let him chime in himself.

I know that it didn’t matter what I put in front of the Echoczar, it didn’t like coming after a preamp.
@ToneIsKing55 nailed it, as I didn't have issues with the ARDX20 after a preamp but that's because I was running those preamps into FOA and wasn't utilizing their line level output. Any preamp level output will definitely worry the ARDX20 and it would distort a bit, albeit maybe a cool sound.

@Daprofessor After the DC-2W should be completely fine as it's just an instrument level digital unit right? Give it a whirl!!
 

Daprofessor

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@ToneIsKing55 nailed it, as I didn't have issues with the ARDX20 after a preamp but that's because I was running those preamps into FOA and wasn't utilizing their line level output. Any preamp level output will definitely worry the ARDX20 and it would distort a bit, albeit maybe a cool sound.

@Daprofessor After the DC-2W should be completely fine as it's just an instrument level digital unit right? Give it a whirl!!
Yes, that's what I was thinking. That is, use a digital unit after the preamp (line level) and before the analog delay (ARDX20), tame the signal?
 

Chandyland

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Yes, that's what I was thinking. That is, use a digital unit after the preamp (line level) and before the analog delay (ARDX20), tame the signal?
From the Boss DC-2w webpage:

"Premium Waza Craft pedal with all-analog audio circuitry"

You may clip the DC-2w, but it's still worth a try.
 

Chandyland

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Yes, you are right! I need another option?
The DC-2w specs say it is made for a nominal input gain of -20dBu, so you may get some clipping out of it.

I would still give it a try if you already own the pedal. If you haven't bought it yet, you may want to consider other options.

Or you could get some kind of intermediary signal converter to run between your preamp and your DC-2w and analog delay.

I know Radial Engineering makes a box for using guitar-level equipment at line-level, but that may be overkill for what you're wanting. But it seems overkill is what we do best around here!
 

johnetone

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I will be using a Maiden D and a Page Ds as preamps into a power amp. If I place a chorus and analog delay after the Kingsley pedals prior to the power amp, would the signal be too hot for the chorus and delay?
I think you should experiment first with what you have and see how you like it. Just because the DC-2W is all analog doesn't mean it won't be able to handle the preamp levels. Or the way that it can't handle them might be really cool anyway. An additional option would be to have them between your two Kingsley's.

Also, Kingsley stuff sounds really great with modulation in front of it. So you might find that to be a decent compromise that sounds better than you would imagine. Perhaps all you might need would be a decent clean boost like a Saturn VI or something to feed your chorus and delay a bit hotter signal so it pops more in the preamps.
 

blackba

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Sounds great. Are the Kingsley's being used as pre amps into a power amp? If not, what amp is being used?
My page, jester, and Jouster are typically run into a Mesa ta15 set on top boost. My harlot, I typically use with a Soldano hr25 or Marshall 2553 to give me some crunch on the fly.

I have been considering going ampless and running a preamp into a cabm then to the pa. There are some clips earlier of a harlot being used into the cabm and it sounded sweet.

If I do get a dedicated preamp, it would likely be the constable, those those victory preamp pedals look pretty nice as well.
 

leonelh7

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Running the preamp into any pedal at line level will clip, if the pedal is meant to only handle line level. Even digital pedals will clip. It must handle line level input and be able to handle about 8db minimum as clean sounds will increase in db
 




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