The most vocal envelope filter?

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  1. Miles Long

    Miles Long Member

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    I currently have a Q-tron and a Mutron, is anything better out there? True bypass and a smaller footprint would be cool. Emma? Thanks in advance. :)
     
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    The original MutronIII (not the reissue by HAZ) is very liquid and vocal. It is my fave of several I've owned over some odd 30 years or so...
     
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    Q-Tron is my favorite of those I own, but the Emma can get REALLY close and is quite a bit smaller. The Emma goes to gigs when I have envelope filtering needs these days.
     
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    How much do the originals run? I've got the HAZ. Do the originals have a good buffer? Thanks...
     
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    About three bills or so. Mind that you need a special power supply and cable or have to have the pedal modded to accept something more standard. I did the latter.

    RE: buffer. Beats me. I have mine in a switching loop on the pedal tray in my rack. Sounds great.
     
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    Living on my side of the world, I've never tried the EHX or the Emma filters, but I do own a Robotalk. :)

    Anyone done a comparison before?

    I've got a buddy pretty interested in getting a filter, we've narrowed down our choices to the Wah Rocker, Robotalk and the Emma one. Anyone care to tell me how the Emma and the EHX ones sound in comparison to the Robotalk?

    Thanks folks!
     
  7. otherone

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    Mutron III is the most vocal of any envelope filter...closest thing to it in a small footprint and also true bypass is the Maxon AF-9, which uses the same op-amp as the original Mutron III...it's an excellent pedal.
     
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    The Emma def cops a vocal tone.

    I employed it on a funk tune last week and the band went "WHAT was that?"

    They seemed to like it.
     
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    Yup, the Maxon is very nice...not as syrupy, but very vocal. The Meatball is another good one.
     
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    Any thoughts about the tonefactor offering compared to these?
     
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    mxr is also quite good, cheap, and small.

    fwiw, i have an original mutron, q-tron, and q-tron +. with lower-output pickups, all can get very vocal and thick. with higher output PU's (PRS dragon I's) the q-tron is a bit too sharp. the q-tron+ is the fattest with those. the original mutron is somewhere in between. the most interesting trait of the original i've noticed is that it tracks very well across a wide range of notes/frets. the others tend to have a smaller area where they work really well and then out of that it is either hard to trigger it or it triggers too easily.

    fwiw, i didn't find the emma to be as vocal as any of those i mentioned (nor the rastop), but they are great pedals nonetheless.
     
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    See the thread and clip of the new BJF VCF. Sounds great.
     
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    I have a lot of fun with the Emma...
     
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    The BJF clips just posted sound fatter than the Pigtronix samples. sounds great! :AOK
     
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    I listened to the BJF clip and didn't hear any actual wah-ing sounds... I guess it was cocked wah maybe, but, then what's the filter for? It was set very subtly I guess, I'd like to hear the funky sounds from the BJF...
     
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    We want the funk!
     
  17. Craise

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    VCF is a very deep box indeed! I thought what I had done as pretty funky myself...But I'll try and dial some more O Dat Funk next time.:p
    Mostly I was showing how your pick attack can change how different the VCF sounds. Check out the VCF thread I just posted a more Synth type clip..

    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=1670062#post1670062


    :dude:dude
     
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    Don't get me wrong, the BJF doesn't sound bad at all and I was speaking more to the lack of funk-style wah "shape" to the sound- not that your playing wasn't funky!

    I just have always thought of sounds like this or that when I hear or see the words "envelope filter"...
     
  19. Craise

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    Oh it will do those sounds for sure:D It's all in the way you set it.
    My clips are only one setting each!
     
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    Steve...were both of those clips the Emma?...I especially like the first one...really deep and vocal kinda sounded like a wah:AOK

    Chow,
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