The musician vetting process then vs. now.

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  1. therhodeo

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    Back in the day it seemed to me that performers got to the top by working constantly. Most had hundreds of hours of stage experience and likely big repertoires. They didn't have the benefit of doing 12 shows a year and just being a star. At some point that changed to a "get discovered" type system and in my opinion you end up with less well rounded talent.

    I guess my question would be when did that start? Was that purely a 50's forward symptom of the rock and pop explosion or did happen earlier and I'm just not aware of it?
     
  2. BobbyFudge

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    What makes you think some of today's talent hasn't paid their dues or worked their asses off?
     
  3. therhodeo

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    Some have absolutely.
     
  4. AParrotLooksAt4O

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    I think these days, more artists than not are paying their dues, at least in the realm of music I listen to.

    I think its more about “right place at the right time” for some people, more than it is about dues.

    At the same time, there are certainly plenty of individuals crafted by moguls for mass consumption in the entertainment industry.
     
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    It's been that way in England, since the '70s, at least.

    Get a band together, book a gig at a well-known club in London, get a deal. Or not, but you'd find out quick.

    I remember reading an interview w/a British artist who was amazed that US acts would go out and grind it for a decade.
     
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    I think it is way harder now to make a name for your self , Granted theres the internet etc but its you and a millions others . I don't think there are any over night sensations any more
     
  7. 27sauce

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    TV/Video.

    Just like the Beatles did. They couldn't/or didn't want to perform, so they made videos. Trickle that down all the way to now. You don't need to hone your skills and deliver great performances across your town, state region…you just have to get one good video and let the internet do all the work.
     
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    Yeah I guess I'm asking if pre rock and roll there was a channel to stardom that didn't require grinding it out. A sort of american idol of the times.
     
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    Talent shows like American Idol et al, go back to radio, (and before surely they have a much longer local history). Between amateur hours and variety shows it was possible for people to forgo the grunt work, but never at the level of todays numbers. And the internet and Youtube have created whole new pathways to quick rise.
     
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    Would you say people fall quicker too? Like I don't see anyone in Nashville today being a Porter Wagoner or Jimmy Dickens legacy artist who's still around in their later years.
     
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    What was their legacy other than being Jimmy Dickens and Porter Wagoner? Surely not their music, right? I don't know many, old or new, that ever listened to much of either. Maybe Porter.
    Can anyone name 3 jimmy Dickens tunes without looking it up?
    With that in mind, maybe Blake Shelton?
     
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    Cream will always rise to the top.

    Or is that scum?

    I can never recall...
     
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    This, and novelty YouTube videos.
     
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    :rotflmao

    I trust you're not being serious.
     
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    What do you think I'm trying to say?
     
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    The Beatles cut their teeth in Hamburg playing more than 8 days a week.
     
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    Of course. When it came time to promote Paperback Writer, they either couldn't or didn't want to perform or appear on TV so they made a promo video. This set the precedent of promoting music with a filmed performance rather than an actually performance, even if mimed.

    What that means to artists coming up now is that all they have to do is put out a video and the video does all the work. If you follow that all the way back, Paperback Writer was one of the first, if not the first, successful uses of that idea.
     
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    American Idol. Incredibly popular show and spawned many other similar shows. Add in Disney child development and that probably accounts for 50% of the popular music you hear on regular radio now.
     
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    "some of today's talent" paying her dues and working her ass off
    Sarah Dunn Band

    http://www.sarahdunnband.com/
     

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