The Raspberries - Vintage Live - Go All The Way / I Wanna Be With You / Let's Pretend

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1972 ~ The Hollies and The Raspberries Tour ~ {Part 1}

From the information gathered, it was supposed to be a good mix of band's
that each had good 3-Part harmonies.

Basically a 'feel-good' up-beat tour. One older clean-cut British Band with a string of
hits from the 1960's, and a bullet on the charts with "Long Cool Woman".

And a hot clean-cut Cleveland-based Pop-Rock Band that was trying to bring back
The Beatles {1960's style}. Also with a bullet on the charts with "Go All The Way".

They were scheduled for the small Arena, and college Auditorium venues {4000 Capacity}
shows.

The Raspberries {Manager - Allan Troverthon} said that the first few shows went
over fine. But by the 5th show {Portland, Maine} on September 23rd, it was obvious
that the head-liners {The Hollies} could not match The Raspberries stage performance.
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Allan Troverthon {Manager}
"We blew The Hollies away in Portland, Maine. When they came out on stage after us,
the audience of 4300 were completely drained. The Hollies had nothing to offer."

'We had literally embarrassed them. For the next few shows we toned it down a bit,
as to leave them {The Hollies} something for the audience."

But on the 10th show of the tour {October 4th ~ Harrisburg, Pennsylvania} we really
lit up the stage. The guys were having the time of their life up on stage. The audience
of {4000} went crazy, especially when they tore into "Go All The Way" and then finished
up with "Good Golly Miss Molly".

The Hollies didn't want to go on, until the crowd had quieted down. They waited for
a good 30-Minutes. By the time they got out on stage, they had 'zip'. And the crowd
was not enthusiastic at all. The Hollies were a 'tired act', as they just went through
the motions of their set.


That is where the animosity between the bands grew. They were really 'pissed off'
at us. They believed that we were purposely trying to up-stage them. In reality,
we were just better performers up on stage. It was something that they could not
handle. They fit better with an older and much more reserved crowd. They had no
relationship with the lively and energetic {Ages; 14 thru 19} crowd.

After the show in Harrisburg, we had set up a promotional booth in the Lobby. We
were swarmed with fans. We were giving away Promotional Material, and the boys
were signing everything for the fans. We had photographers taking pictures, and
teenage girls we everywhere, just screaming and grabbing at the boys.

On the opposite side of the Lobby, The Hollies had set up their promotional booth.
There was absolutely nobody there. Maybe a just a few people. I felt bad for them.
But this business is about 'who is popular now', not yesterday.

After the show that night, and back at the Hotel. The Hollies Manager {Alan Cheetham}
came up to me in the Hotel Bar. He told me that we had to 'tone down' our stage
performance. He said that we were intentionally trying to burn out the audience before
his band went on.

I told him that the boys were just trying to put on a good show for the paying fans.
They want to see an exciting show, not a boring 'hum-drum' warm-up act.

He said that his band {The Hollies} were really upset at what went on at the show
tonight. That they have tolerated it for several shows. But now, enough is enough.

He said > "Either tone it down, or you and your band will be gone."






 
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Kallie

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Mr. Pop-Rock

1972 ~ The Hollies and The Raspberries Tour ~ {Part 1}

From the information gathered, it was supposed to be a good mix of band's
that each had good 3-Part harmonies.

Basically a 'feel-good' up-beat tour. One older clean-cut British Band with a string of
hits from the 1960's, and a bullet on the charts with "Long Cool Woman".

And a hot clean-cut Cleveland-based Pop-Rock Band that was trying to bring back
The Beatles {1960's style}. Also with a bullet on the charts with "Go All The Way".

They were scheduled for the small Arena, and college Auditorium venues {4000 Capacity}
shows.

The Raspberries {Manager - Allan Troverthon} said that the first few shows went
over fine. But by the 5th show {Portland, Maine} on September 23rd, it was obvious
that the head-liners {The Hollies} could not match The Raspberries stage performance.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Allan Troverthon {Manager}
"We blew The Hollies away in Portland, Maine. When they came out on stage after us,
the audience of 4300 were completely drained. The Hollies had nothing to offer."

'We had literally embarrassed them. For the next few shows we toned it down a bit,
as to leave them {The Hollies} something for the audience."

But on the 10th show of the tour {October 4th ~ Harrisburg, Pennsylvania} we really
lit up the stage. The guys were having the time of their life up on stage. The audience
of {4000} went crazy, especially when they tore into "Go All The Way" and then finished
up with "Good Golly Miss Molly".

The Hollies didn't want to go on, until the crowd had quieted down. They waited for
a good 30-Minutes. By the time they got out on stage, they had 'zip'. And the crowd
was not enthusiastic at all. The Hollies were a 'tired act', as they just went through
the motions of their set.


That is where the animosity between the bands grew. They were really 'pissed off'
at us. They believed that we were purposely trying to up-stage them. In reality,
we were just better performers up on stage. It was something that they could not
handle. They fit better with an older and much more reserved crowd. They had no
relationship with the lively and energetic {Ages; 14 thru 19} crowd.

After the show in Harrisburg, we had set up a promotional booth in the Lobby. We
were swarmed with fans. We were giving away Promotional Material, and the boys
were signing everything for the fans. We had photographers taking pictures, and
teenage girls we everywhere, just screaming and grabbing at the boys.

On the opposite side of the Lobby, The Hollies had set up their promotional booth.
There was absolutely nobody there. Maybe a just a few people. I felt bad for them.
But this business is about 'who is popular now', not yesterday.

After the show that night, and back at the Hotel. The Hollies Manager {Alan Cheetham}
came up to me in the Hotel Bar. He told me that we had to 'tone down' our stage
performance. He said that we were intentionally trying to burn out the audience before
his band went on.

I told him that the boys were just trying to put on a good show for the paying fans.
They want to see an exciting show, not a boring 'hum-drum' warm-up act.

He said that his band {The Hollies} were really upset at what went on at the show
tonight. That they have tolerated it for several shows. But now, enough is enough.

He said > "Either tone it down, or you and your band will be gone."
After Harrisburg, Pennsylvania {Wednesday, October 4th} we had a 3-days to do
a bunch of Radio Promo's before hooking up in Roanoke, Virginia on {Saturday Night}
October 7th.

We cris-crossed western Virginia and hit '12' Radio Stations in 2 1/2 days.

We were booked for '4' spots each day. We came into the Radio Booths, and did
40-Minute guest visits.

By October 7th, "Go All The Way" had reached #5 Billboard Charts, and we were
still maintaining high-momentum. The Raspberries were Radio Stars.

At the same time, "Long Cool Woman" had dropped out of the Top 40.

We rocked the place down in Roanoke, Virginia > to 3800 screaming kids. Now every
Radio Station was trying to book us to come in for a Guest Spot. We had another
couple of days off, before a show in Suffolk, Virginia on Wednesday Night {October 11th}.

Again we hit the Radio Stations. This time in central and southeastern Virginia. We
were riding a 'bullet'.
 
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Kallie

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After Harrisburg, Pennsylvania {Wednesday, October 4th} we had a 3-days to do
a bunch of Radio Promo's before hooking up in Roanoke, Virginia on {Saturday Night}
October 7th.

We cris-crossed western Virginia and hit '12' Radio Stations in 2 1/2 days.

We were booked for '4' spots each day. We came into the Radio Booths, and did
40-Minute guest visits.

By October 7th, "Go All The Way" had reached #5 Billboard Charts, and we were
still maintaining high-momentum. The Raspberries were Radio Stars.

At the same time, "Long Cool Woman" had dropped out of the Top 40.

We rocked the place down in Roanoke, Virginia > to 3800 screaming kids. Now every
Radio Station was trying to book us to come in for a Guest Spot. We had another
couple of days off, before a show in Suffolk, Virginia on Wednesday Night {October 11th}.

Again we hit the Radio Stations. This time in central and southeastern Virginia. We
were riding a 'bullet'.
In Suffolk, Virginia we played to a packed audience {3200 attendance}. Again we had
another stellar show.

After the show, The Hollies sent out a Press Release that they were adding '7' more shows
to their 1972 American Bill, not including the previously booked gigs.

* October 17 ......... Albany, New York
* October 19 ......... Buffalo, New York
* October 22 ......... Boston, Massachusetts
* November 6 ....... Washington D.C.
* November 12 ..... Chicago, Illinois
* November 19 ..... San Diego, California
* November 22 ..... Santa Monica, California

Things seemed to subside between us and 'The Hollies', after their earlier animosity
towards us.

But that was before the show a few days later on {Saturday Night} October 14th
at the Carmichael Auditorium at North Carolina University in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.



 
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Kallie

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Thursday ~ October 12, 1972

The Hollies are the featured band for Saturday Night ~ October 14th at
Carmichael Auditorium at North Carolina University.

The British Quintet have enjoyed a 10-Year run, and have a bill-fold list
of Top 10 hits.

Ticket Prices are $2.50 for the 'Homecoming Event'

An estimated sell out of {8000} is expected. The 'special guest attraction'
will be The Raspberries.





 
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Kallie

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Regarding The Raspberries getting thrown of The Hollies {1972 Fall Tour of the U.S.}

Saturday Night ~ October 14, 1972

Chapel Hill, North Carolina
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~ The Hollies Fiasco - The Raspberries Impress and Might Improve ~

The Hollies fiasco Starday Night at Chapel Hill needs little comment. The Hollies only
have to apologize to themselves and the 4500 or so people who paid $2.50 for the
{Student Discount Ticket Price} tickets and attended the show.

Even if only for the people who never saw these characters perform when they were
regarded as a good band several years ago.

The show opened with a 'boring' session from Seattle-based Folk Guitarist - Danny O'Keefe,
who nearly put the audience to sleep with one boring song after another. Even the
Folk Guitarist's hit > "Good Time Charlie's Got The Blues" {Billboard Charts #10}
was met with little more than faint applause.

The once energetic audience {at the beginning of the show} were completely bored
after 10-Minutes of Folk Guitar playing. O'Keefe's 35-Minute set could not have ended any sooner.

Next up, with the job of reviving the now near comatose crowd, was the Cleveland-based
Pop-Rock band The Raspberries.


With the same excitement as 'Jan and Dean' in their most popular days, the fab-looking
guys with long hair blasted away with '4' consecutive fast-rocking songs.

The Raspberries are a cross between The Beatles and The Dave Clark Five, only they
put on a better show. With crowd cheering wildly and standing, the band went into a
rendition of "Good Golly Miss Molly", which was played both fast and loud, with
Lead Singer - Eric Carmen belting out clear vocals.

The Raspberries which use The Beatles as base, then went into 'Ticket To Ride" as an
intro, before blasting away into their new song "I Wanna Be With You" {which is to
be released soon}.

The Rockers then switched to a beach song "Driven Around", which sounded
like a blend of The Beach Boys.

The rockers then played Jan and Dean's > "The Little Old Lady From Pasadena".

Lead Guitarist - Wally Bryson then switched over to The Beatles >
"Roll Over Beethoven" like a skilled surgeon, as the band had the Chapel Hill
audience stomping their feet-to-the-beat.

For the grand finale, The Raspberries ripped "Go All The Way" as loud as they
could, while leaving the crowd drained at the end of their set.

The Cleveland Boys have only been touring since March, and in only 8 short months
they have impressed. They can only get better and might improve on an already
Rocking 50-Minute/10-Song stage show.

Oh, The Hollies did finally get on stage. The English Pop Band were a very tired
third act.

The 5-piece band lumbered through an uninspiring 45-Minute set. There once
'high-and-bouncy' sound was just not there. The only time they got the 4500
Carolinian's to respond, is when they played their current hit "Long Cool Woman"
{Billboard Charts #3}.

Otherwise, the one-time hit-makers bored the audience to sleep, as their current
show is more of a 'novelty act'.
Allan Troverthon {Manager for The Raspberries} >
After the show at the Carmichael Auditorium at the University of North Carolina, I knew
it was just a matter of time before we would get booted off The Hollies tour.

After the show, we all went back to the Hotel. We hung out in the Hotel Bar, by cooling
off with a few Beers. Then Alan Cheetham {Manager for The Hollies} and Terry Sylvester
{band member} burst into the Bar Area and let us have it.

They started screaming at us, by telling me that my band was 'out-of-line', by purposely
upstaging The Hollies.

Alan Cheetham then started yelling at us >
"If you guys want to stay with us, then we're going to cut your set from {10-Songs and
50-Minutes} to 35-Minutes.

"You've got 35-Minutes to play that Bubble-Gum S***, then get off the F***ing stage.
And your band is going to finish their set with a slow song. None of this big finish stuff.
Do you hear me."

Allan Troverthon >
I just looked at him and said > "You want to lay out our set list. What are you, out of
your F***ing mind. Maybe you'd like to play my band's songs as well."

He just kept staring at me, and repeating "It's Bubble-Gum S***. That's all you've got."

Finally I said > "OK Alan. Whatever you and your band want. I'll have my band slow
it down. We'll finish up with a slow song."

The next morning, my band and Road Crew met up for Breakfast at 9:00 AM. When
we got there, we found out that The Hollies had boarded their Tour Bus, and headed
out of Chapel Hill at 8:00 AM.

I guess they didn't want to be around for the Show Reviews in the Newspapers.

We stayed in Chapel Hill for Sunday {October 15th} and rested. On Monday Morning
we headed North, back up to Albany, New York for a show we had scheduled on
Tuesday Night {October 17th}.









 
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Out of curiosity, did these guys ever open for The Hollies? Seems like they'd have been a good match.
 

Kallie

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Out of curiosity, did these guys ever open for The Hollies? Seems like they'd have been a good match.
Eddie OJ,

The Raspberries did tour with The Hollies in September, October and November 1972.
They were booked for a 4-Month tour, to support The Hollies, and with Folk Guitarist
Danny O'Keefe as the opening act.

Booked Tour Dates

* Sunday, September 17 ....... Albany, New York
* Wednesday, September 20 . Springfield, Massachusetts
* Friday, September 23 ......... Portland, Maine
* Sunday, September 25 ....... Warwick, Rhode Island
* Wednesday, September 28 . Manchester, New Hampshire
* Friday, September 30 ......... Stamford, Connecticut


* Sunday, October 2 ............. Princeton, New Jersey
* Wednesday, October 4 ....... Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
* Saturday, October 7 ........... Roanoke, Virginia
* Wednesday, October 11 ..... Suffolk, Virginia
* Saturday, October 14 ......... Chapel Hill, North Carolina
* Tuesday, October 17 .......... Albany, New York
* Thursday, October 19 ......... Buffalo, New York
* Sunday, October 22 ........... Boston, Massachusetts
* Thursday, October 26 ......... Kingsport, Tennessee
* Saturday, October 28 ......... Bowling Green, Kentucky

* Wednesday, November 1 .... Fredricksburg, Maryland
* Sunday, November 5 .......... Philharmonic Hall, New York City, New York
* Monday, November 6 .......... Washington D.C.
* Wednesday, November 8 .... Atlanta, Georgia
* Sunday, November 12 ........ Chicago, Illinois
* Sunday, November 19 ........ San Diego, California
* Wednesday, November 22 ... Santa Monica, California
The Fall of 1972

The Raspberries were booked to provide support for The Hollies from Sunday, September 17th
thru Wednesday, November 22nd.

After the show on Saturday, October 28th {Bowling Green, Kentucky} they were kicked off the
tour, after a 'Kick-Ass' performance prior to The Hollies coming on.
 

Kallie

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Is there any recording of them doing "Good Golly Miss Molly"?
Kin-Mike,

That would be a good find. During 1972 and early-1973 'The Raspberries' did perform
the following covers >

* Good Golly Miss Molly
* Roll Over Beethoven
* Ticket To Ride
* The Little Old Lady From Pasadena
 

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Eric Carmen came off as a real 'cocky bastard', all full of himself. He even stated that
they were going to reach the level of 'The Who', and that they had visions of doing a
Rock Opera Album.

Eric Carmen >
"Yea. We are the biggest Rock-Pop band in America. We've conquered the States.
Europe should be no problem at all.
I know very little of this band. Other than my impression of Eric Carmen from a short 'where are they now' clip where he came off as slightly cocky and prideful. However, I'm digging these clips. Seems like they could be on a bill with Big Star, or something. I'll have to check more out.
 




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