The RAT...a rediscovery

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  1. gkelm

    gkelm Supporting Member

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    Got an new pedal and said to myself, "Self, this reminds me of my old Rat." Hadn't pulled it out in years...and I've forgotten how absolutely great that pedal sounds. IMO it hangs right in there with the rest...a true classic. :AOK

    Greg
     
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    how does it compare with the mayo, which is most useful and better sounding? how similiar? alot of crossover?
    thanks
     
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    The Rat is more distortion oriented (although can get fuzzy if you wind out the gain) while the Mayo is a Big Muff type fuzz.
     
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    Atta Boy!!


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    I LOVE RATS!!

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    Man . . .
    I've got one identical to the one depicted above on the right. Time to dust her off and try it again. I just dug it out to look at it and was surprised to see that all of my pots were set to the identical positions as those in the picture. Go figure.
     
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    A friend just lent me three versions, which to me all sounded about the same. I have to admit it is a great pedal when you consider how old it is. It has that open puffy tone of the Keeley SEM/Ultra DS-1, bit with a mid boost which hits the strings just right for fast playing. For me, however, I didn't care for it. The lows seemed a bit soft and flabby and the tone seemed to be covered to some extent by other pedals in my collection (although not all characteristics in one pedal). Also, to me, it didn't play well into a clean channel, and is a high gain pedal best suited for high gain channels for that extra oomph. Just my two cents.
     
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    I've got the non LED RAT from the 80's and solved the flabby bottom by putting a lovepedal twin 60 in front of it. Tasty!
     
  8. PlexiBreath

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    Rediscovery? I've never found a pedal yet that's it's equal and I've got some very expensive boutiques. I rediscover the Rat every time I set it next to any other pedal. Yes, it does have tonal artifacts I don't like, but it makes up for it with that sublime and decadant grind. Congratulations on your rediscovery! :AOK
     
  9. Antero

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    Here's a RAT question: RAT2 vs. Turbo RAT vs. The Rat?

    I tried a friend's RAT2 and it was pretty fun, though I was running clean and it seemed like it would really shine if I had a bit of crunch going.
     
  10. sandman

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    That rig makes me jealous :drool

    How about Rat vs. SCOD?
     
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    The SCOD (fine pedal) is actually what made me pull out the Rat...something in my tone memory was jiggled by it. Similar depth/dimension and grind, but I prefer the Rat's fuller bottom end.
     
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    I usually run my dirt pedals into and amp that has some breakup going on, even if just a slight edge...so that's generally my context ('75 JMP 50w, FTR37, Colonial).

    Here's a run down of Rat history...

    http://www.happybob.com/rstrand/rat/rat_versions.htm

    My version happens to be the third one down ("small box, no LED")...which I've had since the early 80s. Loved it then, and apparenty I still do. :)

    I'd like to try the original version (tone knob)...I've read those are the cat's meow.
     
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    You know, I didn't try it through my Vibroverb because I'm selling it and don't want to fall in favor of it ... but I can see this being the case. For some reason, I think of it as a LP/Marshall type pedal.

    The three I tried where an original '80's Rat, an exact reissue, and "The Rat" in the bigger box. I A/B/C tested them and found no notable differences, although I wasn't searching high and far for the smallest nuance of change. I would say, if I blindfolded the owner of these pedals, I'm fairly certain he wouldn't be able to tell me the difference from one to another.
     
  14. Big Bob

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    Before I got crazy with pedals I used a Hotcake (medium grind) and a Rat for years and had everything covered. I should go check one out again.

    Bob
     
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    Cool to see the Rodent's history. Mine is the second down the list, large box with "Filter" instead of tone, 1981 - 1983.

    What is "white face"? I'd imagine it would be the silkscreening that would be white with black background, not the other way, right?
     
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    Yes, I believe "white face" is as you say...word "RAT" in black.
     
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    +1 My favorite distortion... need to find another for backup too:AOK
     
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    I'm going to buy a new "vintage" big box Rat to blind A/B compare to my old Rat. I'll report back to this thread my findings.
     
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    Excellent.
     
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    The vintage version was discontinued. The RAT 2 is the same pedal in a different box.
     

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