The Shape of Water

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  1. eddie famine

    eddie famine Member

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    I know ( now ) that this has been discussed in the What Movie have You Seen Recently thread, so pardon the redundancy.
    My wife got me to see it last night and sold me on it because
    1 it was by the guy who did Hell Boy...which I liked.
    2 the guy who was the fish guy in Hell Boy is in it...who I liked.
    3 the guy who was the crooked FBI guy in Boardwalk Empire is in it... liked him
    4 and best of all, there would be boobs.
    Sold.
    One thing she forgot to tell me was... fish sex.
    My wife loved the movie, and judging the reaction from other women and some men, they loved it too. “A fantasy like Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid “ but with fish sex.
    If it was a film about a lonely boy on a farm who fell in love with a magical sheep, and had that special relationship,I’m not so sure it would be getting Oscar nods, but then again maybe
    NOW I’m reading reviews and other than some plagiarism problems, there is another movie about a woman falling in love with a fish (how have I missed that one too) people seemed to love it.
    Definitely not your average film for sure.
    I’m sure for Christmas I’ll be getting my wife the extended directors cut DVD.
    I’m afraid to see what they cut out.
     
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    Ms. Cafone and I saw it.
    She didn’t care for it, and I brought up her admiration for “Beauty and Beast.”
    She saw them as completely different.

    Your farm/sheep analogy reminds me of the debate around “The Bridges of Madison County.” (Or was that merely a stand-up routine I remember vividly?)

    I understand and “get” what he was attempting to do.
    He didn’t set it in the early 60s by accident.
    But it didn’t quite, er, land for me.
     
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    Laurence Silver Supporting Member

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    Haven't seen it yet. I like your review.

     
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  4. D. Stewart

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    It's basically about tolerance, from both ends of the scale, imo.
     
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    I saw it with my wife a few weeks back. We loved it.
     
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    I'm curious about it
     
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    Wife and I liked it.....couple we saw it with not as much.

    The actually filming, color, textures, dialogue, tension, etc. were great IMO. The "crooked FBI guy" played his part perfectly.

    Definitely a movie about tolerance and accepting/loving people for who they are....perhaps a good message for our current times in America.

    And while there is some female nudity, the is no fish sex to be viewed for those that are either worried or hoping to see it! If you see it for the nudity/sex, you will be disappointed.

    Interesting and well done IMO.

    Evan.
     
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    The lead actress sure whacked off vigorously and regularly but they never really examined that. Odd I thought.
     
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    I thought that was a nice touch (ahem!). What any healthy single or non-single person will probably do, with no fuss, "angle" or explanations added.
     
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    ...alternate title .. "the pleasure of the bath"! :)

    fwiw, it was filmed just down the road, in Hamilton, ON.
     
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    Wolfboy1 Grandpa but...Not Yet Old! Silver Supporting Member

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    I loved it and so did my adult son and niece whom I went with.
     
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    It’s been done before better:

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    I enjoyed it too, and found it entertaining though not quite a mythic masterpiece. Still, some very nice visuals, reasonable pacing, and parts well played, yet still a bit... hollow, overall. Wouldn't be surprised to learn that what was released had been cut down from a longer version. I enjoyed the way fantasy and fairytale images were woven in. A more nuanced treatment than the ham-handed Marvel approach. Equal parts comic book fantasy, art film/social parable, and sci-fi thriller- Guillermo Del Toro has balanced these elements into a movie that works well, for the most part.

    Shape Of Water has many mirror images of Creature From The Black Lagoon actually. In this one the monster is a human, the creature his innocent victim. The female lead seems vulnerable but is stronger than she seems; in COTBL the girl is out of her element (literally for awhile) and proves helpless. The 50s film shows everyone comfortably secure in their defined role; in TSOW virtually every character is living with the strain of not fitting precisely within their social boundaries. And it ends with two deus-ex-machina twists, taking us right into the realm of fairytales.
     
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    I saw it on New Year’s Eve, thought it was good.

    Richard Jenkins was maybe, as he sometimes is, the MVP of this.
     
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    For the record, they are currently remaking Creature From The Black Lagoon, which should go over about as well as a remake of Layla. You can't recapture that lightning in a bottle, don't even try.
     
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    Is that part of that Universal monster reboot deal? After the poor showing of The Mummy, I wonder if they're going forward with it?
     
  17. Vic Interceptor

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    yes it is, and I have no idea. The Mummy wasn't bad and it was something of an "origin" movie, so I assume there is a 2nd installment already green lit. Those Hollywood types might as well just sell all that stuff to Disney, they seem to be the only movie makers who get why and what makes a franchise good.

    Along the same lines as TSOW, I am still very sad they did not make the Bioshock movie. THAT would've been an epic.
     
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    Interesting. Was there an equal amount of whacking off in the original?
     
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    Now I want a magical sheep!
     
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  20. somecafone

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    TSOW has won the Director’s Guild prize, for anyone interested.
     
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