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The Stones recent touring help

Taller

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As others have said, I'm sure all the musicians on stage are compensated handsomely, or they wouldn't have been along for the ride all these years.
And speaking of 'the ride'...compare being a support musician in the Stones to any other gig:
Private planes; the best food and accommodations; police escorts to and from the gig...who wouldn't take that gig?
 

Tidbit

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I actually think that REM and The Rolling Stones should’ve called it quits when both of their Bill’s left.

They’d both have a string of unbeatable albums, rather than soldiering on.
Wait...Steel Wheels is an unbeatable Stones record now??
 

theanthonyv

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Define "rich".

A quick search and I see several sites that estimate his net worth at 8 million. Another site lists his net worth as 6 million. 6 million puts him in the richest 1% of the worlds population.

Of course if those estimates are correct it still does not tell us anything about his actual earnings with the Stones and whether he has invested wisely or foolishly squandered his earnings.
I would pay no attention to those web sites. They make extremely broad generalizations that are based on very little actual fact for the specific person.
 

ripgtr

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Two of those names (Jones and Leavell) have been touring with them for 30 years. That tells me they are being paid enough to continue to do so for 30 years and, I would suspect that, after 30 years, the proud part never gets a second thought.
I saw Leavell with ABB and Sea Level, great player. I am sure they pay him well. It's a deduction, why wouldn't you?
 

Jon Silberman

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No, It's about the entertainers that have sold more tickets than any other entertainers ever.
Respectfully, I believe you're wrong. The Grateful Dead sold over 23 million tickets between 1965— 1995. That's even before including Jerry's bands, Bobby's bands, Phil and Friends, Further, and Dead and Company.

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boo radley

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Respectfully, I believe you're wrong. The Grateful Dead sold over 23 million tickets between 1965— 1995. That's even before including Jerry's bands, Bobby's bands, Phil and Friends, Further, and Dead and Company.

Interesting. I would have guessed the Stones, especially given their bigger world-wide audiences. It would be interesting to compare revenue -- when the Stones did tour they were usually the highest grossing act of the year (although so were the Dead in '91 and '93).
 

ArtDecade

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Interesting. I would have guessed the Stones, especially given their bigger world-wide audiences. It would be interesting to compare revenue -- when the Stones did tour they were usually the highest grossing act of the year (although so were the Dead in '91 and '93).


Well, the Stones sold millions of tickets to millions of people. The Dead sold millions of tickets to the same 100 thousand people every year.
 

Simon

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Respectfully, I believe you're wrong. The Grateful Dead sold over 23 million tickets between 1965— 1995. That's even before including Jerry's bands, Bobby's bands, Phil and Friends, Further, and Dead and Company.

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I know the Stones had a 30yr period in which they sold 28.7 million tickets. And they've been together for coming up 60yrs now.
I'm not saying your wrong about the Dead selling more, but I would be surprised. The Stones are still racking up huge numbers.
 

Simon

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I actually think that REM and The Rolling Stones should’ve called it quits when both of their Bill’s left.

They’d both have a string of unbeatable albums, rather than soldiering on.

Would you quit if you were still selling out the biggest venues in the world, and being treated like Royalty?
I take the soldiering on as being a true musician. The old blues guys did it until they dropped.
The Stones haven't needed the $ for decades.
 

somecafone

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I'm sure they're all making way more money than I do and they get to play with the Stones. There aren't many bigger names in popular music to have on your resume. I'm sure playing with the Stones translates to a lot of gigs & income when there isn't a tour. What's not to like?

A friend of mine is FB friends with Lisa Fisher. They've traded DMs and she and I have seen Lisa solo.
Lisa does indeed acknowledge and recognize my friend, but they don't go out for drinks or dinner.
Just for clarity.

Anyway, Lisa hasn't been on any Stones tour for a while now. She told my friend that ever since "20 Feet From Stardom," she's had too many opportunities to pass up.
So whether ego, art, or financial considerations are driving those decisions, she's making them as a solo artist.
 

Black Squirrel

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Hard to say.

A luthier friend of mine knew a tech that worked for Keith years ago and his story of working for the Stones wasn't a good one.

He said that he had been on tour with them and hadn't been paid. When he brought it up to Keith he told him to ask Mick.

When he confronted Mick about the lack of a paycheck, Mick told him that working for the Stones was "A privilege" and he was lucky to get the gig.

He promptly packed-up his equipment and left the tour.

I'm sure that the other guys listed are well compensated or they wouldn't be there.


I call BS on this, the stones probably have 20 support staff and business managers to deal with the stuff. Mick Jagger is not cutting checks after the gig.
 

Dashface

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Honestly, I've toured in conditions way worse for a lot less money than these sidemen and women (and I'm sure most of us here can relate). If we keep touring through all the hardship at the lower end of the scale, why would anyone quit the higher end? I'd stick it out in the Stones camp just to be there. Those side people are still earning in a month what I do in a year, so what's to complain about? :D
 

bobcs71

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How much so they make? I'd take the gig!

As for lucky to play with the Stones, I assume they are. IMO the Stones should feel lucky to play with Steve Jordan. He's already played with Stevie Wonder, The Blues Brothers & Dylan among others.
 

ripple

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Man, the band you could assemble from prior Stones sidemen would be epic:

Steve Jordan - Drums
Darryl Jones - Bass
Chuck Leavell - Keys
Billy Preston - Keys /vox
Bobby Keys - Sax
Jim Price - Trumpet
Bernard Fowler - Vox
Lisa Fischer -Vox
 

John Quinn

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I imagine the longest tenure players are making around $500K for the tour - maybe a little more. The Shorter tenure players probably about $200K. The three Stones left - I imagine they make about $150K a night or so.
 

James824

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As previously mentioned, Chuck has been the Musical Director for quite awhile.

An incredible musician, professional to the core, helluva nice guy and highly regarded/awarded for his work outside the music industry.

All one needs to do is watch "The Tree Man" and you will get the full story.

After the final scene, I am assuming he is paid quite handsomely for his invaluable contributions to The Stones touring ensemble.
 

wire-n-wood

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I wonder what Daryl and Ron get compared to the glimmer twins.
One thing I learned from Ron Woods biography is that he can burn through, and has lost more $ through bad business decisions then one can imagine. He usually needs advances on tours.

He reminds me of the great lines in Kieth's song Happy.


Well I never kept a dollar past sunset,
It always burned a hole in my pants.
Never made a school mama happy,
Never blew a second chance.

Yeah, it was a great book to read, huh! But as I recall, when his son began to manage his money, he started to get things under control. People would ask Ronnie for money, and he'd just hand it over. His son said, "if anyone asks you for money, send them to me!" And his son got him to start monetizing his painting, which was income independent of the Stones.
 

Simon

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Yeah, it was a great book to read, huh! But as I recall, when his son began to manage his money, he started to get things under control. People would ask Ronnie for money, and he'd just hand it over. His son said, "if anyone asks you for money, send them to me!" And his son got him to start monetizing his painting, which was income independent of the Stones.

I will read that book again one of these days. Either way He's had a great life.
I find any excuse I can to post some of my favorite Ron W with Rod Stewart.
it's hard to beat!

 

supergenius365

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Would you quit if you were still selling out the biggest venues in the world, and being treated like Royalty?
I take the soldiering on as being a true musician. The old blues guys did it until they dropped.
The Stones haven't needed the $ for decades.
"Nobody complained that Muddy Waters kept going." (or something very similar) - Keith
 




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