I'll never stop listening to vinyl.
While I certainly dig vinyl (and have quite a bit of it), I’m curious if the sales figures will continue to grow once it isn’t a hipster trend. It’s been popular with audiophiles for years, but that didn’t stop people from giving/throwing away their collections in be 90’s.
Well, that was definitely the case back in the late 90's and early 2000's. In Chicago, there was always a healthy 2nd hand vinyl market. The prices were lower back then, however. ;-)Maybe. That number is just new releases and re-releases. I would bet that more used records are being bought/sold than new.
I called this digititus, it actually exhausts you..CDs absolutely have. They are in every way superior to vinyl. Bass is in stereo, better clarity, wider range of frequencies, ability to have as much bass as you want on a record without worrying that some guy's crappy tonearm will jump, etc.
However, there's far more than meets the eye about it. There are tons of different pressings of each album and the range in sound quality is quite wide from terrible to amazing. In the 80s, when CDs were released, albums were released onto CDs by taking the same mastering done for vinyl and merely digitizing this. Unfortunately, there was no RIAA equalization done for CDs so the albums typically sounded goosed in highs with no real body to the music leading to crystal clean sound and an unsatisfying experience. Once mastering engineers finally understood a whole different set of mastering rules would need to be used for digital, the same albums sounded a million times better.
So... I take it you listen to your phone?There are some very wrong statements in this thread. Very wrong.
I've always found it curious why people are willing to decide and loudly proclaim that they're audio experts when they've had such limited experience, yet they don't try to pretend they're rocket propulsion experts, or global finance experts or other things that they've had limited experience with.
Buying a stock doesn't make somebody a hedge-fund manager, yet it seems buying a pair of Bose 40 years ago does make somebody an audio equipment expert.
It's a strange phenomenon.
I worked for a Sonos Fabre, Wilson Audio Dealer along with 15-20 other high end brands. I spent my weekends listening with small select groups for hours doing nothing but A & B testing. Vinyl is my preference based on audio quality... most of the time. Of course source dictates what will be best. I hardly use my Lossless or HDtracks library.I'm in the high-end audio business. I listen to the best sh!t on earth on a daily basis.
I think vinyl has a much higher point of diminishing returns vs. digital, but that doesn't mean that lower cost setups can't be wonderful to listen to.I worked for a Sonos Fabre, Wilson Audio Dealer along with 15-20 other high end brands. I spent my weekends listening with small select groups for hours doing nothing but A & B testing. Vinyl is my preference based on audio quality... most of the time. Of course source dictates what will be best. I hardly use my Lossless or HDtracks library.
With all that said, there are still wonderful vinyl systems to be had for the same money as digital quality solutions.
I now am a partner in a Low Voltage Integrator company (been a year this October since I left my previous company) and I still sell and engineer audio solutions. I no longer get to deal in the ultra high end two channel arena. I don’t have a professional sound room... But the solutions I offer for audio now are far more practical and realistic. Low end like Roksan, VPI, Rogue are my go to Solutions now. Truthfully, other than a handful of examples in the $35,000 to $80,000 range I don’t think I’m offering less.
I’ve heard expensive sound cheap and cheap sound expensive. I’ve heard good quality from most formats. Vinyl is still the best in my opinion. I have a $1500 DAC that doesn’t get used because it can’t compete with any of my tables including a $25 garage sale find with a $250 cart.
All depends on the mastering and the source of it. Mastering is the #1 most overlooked or completely ignored component and it can make/break the listening experience.One thing for sure, old classic prog releases that then get reissued on cd... I don't know how much they get remixed/remastered or what... The cd can sound disconnected. example -> Genesis - selling England by the Pound - the battle of Epping Forest.
On the original Charisma vinyl (which I have), the mix is really good - the blend is fantastic. On the CD reissue (also I have this), it's almost too clear, or the levels are off. The guitar eight notes hitting the tonic during the verses are too loud, and they don't blend in as well, diminishing the experience.
I think either media (and of course HD digital) can sound excellent, when due care is given. I have like 500 vinyl records mostly incredible stuff, so I am in for the long haul.
How long will it have to last to not be a hipster trend? I started my collection and about 2008. The trend had set in and was firmly on the upswing then and that seems to have continued to present day.While I certainly dig vinyl (and have quite a bit of it), I’m curious if the sales figures will continue to grow once it isn’t a hipster trend. It’s been popular with audiophiles for years, but that didn’t stop people from giving/throwing away their collections in be 90’s.
Ayre Acoustics' QX-5 twenty. I paid $1500 used for it. It works with Roon.I think vinyl has a much higher point of diminishing returns vs. digital, but that doesn't mean that lower cost setups can't be wonderful to listen to.
Just curious, which $1500 DAC do you have?