The ultimate "always on" / buffer pedal?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Weekendwarrior, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. Weekendwarrior

    Weekendwarrior Member

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    After browsing through tons of threads about the LBB, T1M buffer, EP pres/ boosters (in all their varieties), and RC boosters, I haven't been able to figure out which pedal would act best in retaining the strength of my signal through my Rig.

    I play a 335 dot reissue with 10 ft of cable through a fuzz factory and TU-2, then 20 feet back to my racked voodoo labs bypass pedal switcher (little green wonder, CC, M13, etc), and final another 5 feet into my DC-30.

    With nearly 40 feet of cable I really need to make sure my tone doesn't sound weak (less concerned with loss of top end as the amp is so damn bright). I don't mind the TU-2 buffer, but I plan to pick up a turbo tuner and would like to weigh in on TGP's expert opinion.

    Would it be best to get a buffer or a boost/tone shaper? I definitely would like a fatter tone, as I use channel 2 of the DC-30 on the "bassiest" setting and its still could use a little fattening up. Could i use the RC or EP booster without pushing my amp into breaking up (basically at unity or slightly above)?


    I apologize for the long question, thank you for your time guys!

    To Clarify: I am interested in either a buffer or a tone altering "boost" as long as it won't force my amp to break up more or have a dramatic increase in volume.
     
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  2. kmcw

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    Caroline Guitar Company Icarus boost! You won't want to turn it off... ever
     
  3. teleclem

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    Ep can work at unity.. But it will change/sweeten your tone.

    I think that you have to match the input impedance(?) of your amp when it comes to buffers.
     
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    I like the Z.Vex Super Hard-On. Very, very powerful.
     
  5. Heady Jam Fan

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    Im enjoying the buffer on my Fromel Shape.
     
  6. Weekendwarrior

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    I cannot seem to find the specs on the input impedance for the DC-30, anyone know?
     
  7. jkokura

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    I use a compressor as an always on pedal. Something like the Tone Press which includes a clean blend might work nicely for you.

    Jacob
     
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    SHO or Orange Squeezer.
     
  9. 100JH

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    Only one thing you need:

    Pete Cornish Line Driver

    http://www.petecornish.co.uk/SAELD-1.html

    From the site...

    Our low noise discrete component Class A pre-amplifier has been specifically designed to overcome the problems often encountered with amplification of Electric Instruments fitted with magnetic transducers. A frequent cause of these problems is the mismatch of the impedance in the electrical circuit between the pickup and subsequent equipment: this mismatch has been completely eliminated with the introduction of our LD-1™ Line Driver. The input impedance is identical to a high quality tube amplifier and our Class A Pre-amplifier also features a highly effective RF filter which will help prevent interference from nearby radio transmitters. The pickup output should be connected directly to the LD-1™ input with a low loss, screened cable; the LD-1™ output can now be fed to any effects or volume pedals (if used) and then on to the amplifier, using fully screened cables throughout.

    A further use of the LD-1™ is to isolate long cable feeds which can cause signal and tone losses at the end of an effects chain, particularly if the final effect has a high impedance output (for instance a 250KW foot volume pedal). When using many effects it can be beneficial to add a LD-1™ mid way along the chain thus preventing a build up of signal losses that can occur with mismatched impedances between effects.
     
  10. chervokas

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    The TU-2 is a buffered bypass pedal with a 1M ohm input impedance. In other words, you alread have a buffer right after your fuzz after only 10 feet of cable...adding another buffer after that isn't going to change the tonal balance of your rig at all.
     
  11. AXXA

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    I would look into a Fulltone Fat Boost 3. You can of course use it as a buffer, but you can also use it to add lows or cut some highs. With its drive control down, its dead clean, and can be used at unity gain, as a boost, or even below unity gain. Sounds like it would fit your application perfectly, even if only as a tone shaper.
     
  12. Weekendwarrior

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    "I don't mind the TU-2 buffer, but I plan to pick up a turbo tuner and would like to weigh in on TGP's expert opinion."

    I'll be getting rid of my TU-2 in favour of a turbo tuner (true bypass).
     
  13. chervokas

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    Ah, missed that. Yeah, the Turbo Tuner really is all that.
     
  14. Steve73

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    MI Audio Boost n' Buff. The buffer is always on and the boost can be as transparent or treble booster'y as you want. I've had mine for years and it is a mainstay regardless on how much my board changes. Love it.....
     
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    I wholeheartedly endorse this product and always-on boosts as an excellent way to buffer and add tone/output. Other pedals to do this include the Shape EQ with switchable, always on buffer mode, and the Dr. Scientist Mini RRR with its - when engaged - level/boost control is a great way to restore your signal late in the chain.
     
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    I've heard great opinions of the TU-2's buffer but for some reason I don't like what mine does to the tone. My TU-2 is over 10 years old so not sure if that matters?
     
  18. Weekendwarrior

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    I'm just trying to understand, as long as a booster is activated it makes the signal low impedance correct? In that case it seems like buying a boost is much better than a buffer strictly for its versatility. It can be run at unity, boosted, or even eq'd depending on its setting.
     
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    The EP-Pre is always on (mine has no off switch), but it's high impedance so it's useless as a line buffer.
     

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