I know there aren't enough places to play these days as bar owners try to make their places restaurants... and anything to make a buck. And I know that bands... and especially guitar players are often forced to play at volumes that facilitate conversation... but isn't this really the bar owners problem? Part of it is our choice right... I have zero interest in being a juke box. I don't mind the occasional request, but I'm not interested in sounding just like the record. The model I like is being used in Chicago. If you've been to Shubba's or to the Hideout... they have a live music room in the back, and a full bar with tables out front. Double doors to separate the two. They have a way to charge cover for larger acts, and to control the noise in the outer portion. If a bar owners thinks that live music will help the business, shouldn't they buck up and set the room up rather than compromise the entire experience?