Things one shouldn't waste time practicing

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  1. Kappy

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    The other thread about fundamentals, and what Tomo said:
    got me wondering, what are the things (in your opinion) that newer guitar players waste a lot of time working on that really isn't important if you want to be a good, well-rounded player who can improvise well enough to tell a nice story over some chord changes?
     
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    You mean the Frank Gambale technique, or just speedy picking in general? ;)
     
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    Chromatic speed picking drills.

    Learning tunes by memorizing finger positions, instead of intervals. Suddenly the key changes, and you don't know the tune. The same goes for lines.
     
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    Sweep picking? Yeah, I'd include that.

    Basically, I mean any picking 'workout' divorced from an actual piece of music - especially the ones focusing on gaining velocity.
     
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    In his book he calls it "speed picking", but yeah, it's sweep picking. I get your point....playing fast is not a good priority over others. (If I read you right).

    Dave
     
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    A little more nuanced than that - some music requires you to play very fast, but it's rhythmic accuracy that'll get you there, not speed picking drills.

    Also, if I had a dollar for every student that could sweep pick circles around me but couldn't play simple 8th note syncopations at 1/4 = 60, or even keep their own time worth a damn while they're sweep picking, I'd be able to pay off my house.
     
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    I've heard many folks make the point that when performing a song, we spend most of the time playing rhythm and a small amount of time playing lead... This same ratio should apply to our practicing habits. Thus, spend lots of time practicing rhythm. This would include learning to keep time. So, to address the OP, time spend learning to play lead is not wasted, just overbooked.
     
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    Great thread everyone!

    Thanks Dave.

    Tomo
     
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    Don't waste time practicing without application. Have a context. If you're practicing a major scale, for example, Record a chord progression (2 chords minimum) then practice playing a melody using the scale. Be aware of chord tones, common tones and timing.
     
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    If the song you're playing (or your arrangement of that song) integrates it organically, then it's not a waste of your time, imo:
     
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    Very quote-worthy reply, Ken! I love it!
     
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    Agreed, application is the key. There is a context for most any technique, but it depends on the level and ability of the student to be able to apply the concept.
     
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    So true. That's why I can't spend more than 10 minutes at Guitar Center!
     
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    don't waste time practicing without a metronome.
    don't waste time practicing tablature
     
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    Do you practice solo chord melody with a metronome? Rubato?

    Just' sayin'...... :)
     
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    There's lots of things I practice without a metronome
     
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    Me too. With/ without. Both i like.

    Tomo
     
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    I tell my students for lesson project. Stay there and listen a few people who just jamming or playing a lot of stuff with no reason. Watch them carefully, study how they play, how they sound, please describe about it. That's project.

    You will learn from just watching.... so that 10-20 minutes worth something!

    GC lesson #1!

    Tomo
     

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