I enjoy the distortion on my rivera, but the clean is a constant love/hate relationship. Too much bass, and that limits me to the bridge pickup, or else it gets out of control. I tried a fender twin out today, and it was awesome . Everyone keeps telling me to go with the fender amp + distortion pedal route, but I have been and I am still reluctant to do it. I don't even know what kind of fender amp I would get (need a head), and the search for a good distortion pedal seems like it would be time consuming. I don't need 20 different distortion/overdrives, I just need a mid-gain pedal, and a mid-high gain pedal. I have a good BYOC 808 clone with some clipping options, and I think a toneczar openhaus would be best for the mid-high gain I need. For the guys who do the fender amp + distortion pedal, what kind of fender are you using? Do you have trouble finding the pedals to sound 'boxey' and not being open like a tube distortion?