Thinking of buying a Boss RE-20 Space Echo. Pros and Cons? Alternatives?

Would you buy a Boss RE-20?

  • I would buy an RE-20.

  • I would not buy an RE-20.


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dorfmeister

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I'm thinking of going to Guitar Center on Saturday to buy a Boss RE-20.

I'm a guitarist who is into experimental, post-rockish, fusiony, post-punk, and ambient sounds.

I am thinking this pedal will be a good match and inspirational to my playing.

What are some arguments for and against this pedal.

What else might you recommend?
 

mad dog

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I almost did, then didn't. It didn't much impress me in the store, but I 've done this enough to know that means little. It was plugged into some crap amp I'd never use, along with a gazillion other pedals, in a noisy environment filled with distraction. My sense was that I'd get it home, figure it out better, and be very happy. It does have some of those odd ambient textures you don't generally find in pedals. for about 200 bucks used (that's how I'd do it), I think it's a worthy experiment.

The two main reasons I held off were:

1. I already have a very fine pedal for tape echo stuff, the H&K Replex. It's more echoplex like, doesn't do the multihead extremes and wacko stuff you could get out of a space echo. Bulky, but has that sound.

2. My curiosity about space echos was probably not going to be answered by the pedal. so I bit the bullet, went out and found an original RE-201. It's getting checked out and rebiased now. A most interesting device. The pedal might be far better live for various reasons, but the actual tape thing has some kind of unique mojo of its own.
 

dorfmeister

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Thanks for the reply Mad Dog.

Replex sounds interesting but I am wondering if some of that wacko stuff is a part of the appeall of the RE-20? I haven't played one yet but should be able to at Guitar Center this weekend. Hopefully that can give me a better idea.

I'm hoping I can get them to sell it to me for a fair bit lower than $249 at Guitar Center.

I almost did, then didn't. It didn't much impress me in the store, but I 've done this enough to know that means little. It was plugged into some crap amp I'd never use, along with a gazillion other pedals, in a noisy environment filled with distraction. My sense was that I'd get it home, figure it out better, and be very happy. It does have some of those odd ambient textures you don't generally find in pedals. for about 200 bucks used (that's how I'd do it), I think it's a worthy experiment.

The two main reasons I held off were:

1. I already have a very fine pedal for tape echo stuff, the H&K Replex. It's more echoplex like, doesn't do the multihead extremes and wacko stuff you could get out of a space echo. Bulky, but has that sound.

2. My curiosity about space echos was probably not going to be answered by the pedal. so I bit the bullet, went out and found an original RE-201. It's getting checked out and rebiased now. A most interesting device. The pedal might be far better live for various reasons, but the actual tape thing has some kind of unique mojo of its own.
 

leumasjames

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I got one from guitar center for cheaper than 249. I can't quite remember, but I think it was around 210-220 including tax.
 

mikelaw

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i've bought and sold one already. great pedal and great sound and features BUT:

too heavy
too big
too many knobs
 

dorfmeister

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i've bought and sold one already. great pedal and great sound and features BUT:

too heavy
too big
too many knobs

The first two probably are not issues for me. By "Too many knobs" do you mean too complex or just difficult to change settings on the fly?

How did you like the sounds it could create?

Thanks.
 

Keld

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I've been pleasantly surprised by the RE-20. I wasn't too sure about it at first, but after I've spent some time with it, I've found it to be pretty flexible and have some good sounds in it.

I'm not a delay aficionado, so others could surely discuss comparisons better than I, but I think it's a good sounding pedal overall. I like the fact that it has reverb in it so I can blend the verb and delay.

Wish it could hold a couple of presets though.
 

dorfmeister

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I've been pleasantly surprised by the RE-20. I wasn't too sure about it at first, but after I've spent some time with it, I've found it to be pretty flexible and have some good sounds in it.

I'm not a delay aficionado, so others could surely discuss comparisons better than I, but I think it's a good sounding pedal overall. I like the fact that it has reverb in it so I can blend the verb and delay.

Wish it could hold a couple of presets though.
Thanks Keld. I am interested in it because I am hoping it has character and isn't like all the other delays out there. I also like that fact that it has both delay and reverb.
 

dorfmeister

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Has anyone compared this to or like the SIB Mr Echo Plus?



That is another pedal that is on the radar for me.
 

Macaroni

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Brian... If you do decide to go to GC, do on Monday, 2.18, for their President's Day Sale - one day only price cuts. You could get a better deal.

Sorry I can't help you with the Roland.
 

mad dog

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Replex sounds interesting but I am wondering if some of that wacko stuff is a part of the appeall of the RE-20? I haven't played one yet but should be able to at Guitar Center this weekend. Hopefully that can give me a better idea.quote]

Dorf: That wacko stuff is a huge part of the appeal, just as it was on the RE-201 space echos upon which the RE-20 is based. The original tape units were not that similar tonewise. Space echos (RE-201 and 301 most notably) had the strangest, multihead stuff, plus reverb and even chorus. Echoplexes strike me as simpler, more straightforward effects, with longer delays. Echoplex seems to get the nod for guitar tone, while space echos were useful just as much for vocals and various studio processing. So these pedals are emulating different worlds. The Replex happens to be more on the Echoplex side. It's much simpler.
 

dorfmeister

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Replex is very cool but out of my price range. Anything cheaper that you know of that might capture some of the same mojo?


Replex sounds interesting but I am wondering if some of that wacko stuff is a part of the appeall of the RE-20? I haven't played one yet but should be able to at Guitar Center this weekend. Hopefully that can give me a better idea.quote]

Dorf: That wacko stuff is a huge part of the appeal, just as it was on the RE-201 space echos upon which the RE-20 is based. The original tape units were not that similar tonewise. Space echos (RE-201 and 301 most notably) had the strangest, multihead stuff, plus reverb and even chorus. Echoplexes strike me as simpler, more straightforward effects, with longer delays. Echoplex seems to get the nod for guitar tone, while space echos were useful just as much for vocals and various studio processing. So these pedals are emulating different worlds. The Replex happens to be more on the Echoplex side. It's much simpler.
 

mikelaw

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i mean just too many knobs. too many features for me. if youre looking for tape echo sounds and similar sounds to the real thing re-201 look no further.

i have a friend set this and the real thing up the same then AB them and he said they were exactly the same! its just not for me, thats all.
 
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Replex is very cool but out of my price range. Anything cheaper that you know of that might capture some of the same mojo?


I don't know about cheaper...but the Deluxe Memory Man does the Space Echo trick pretty darn well. Maybe sit tight and wait for the XO version to hit the stores and give it a shot before you make a decision. The only thing it won't do is the multi head type of stuff. And of course less available delay time than the RE-20. The only other delay off the top of my head that can do that kind of trick for cheap is the Akai Headrush.
 




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