This is drivin' me friggin' crazy....HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by jimmyohio75, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. jimmyohio75

    jimmyohio75 Member

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    OK, so I traded in my Fender Supersonic because at 60 watts it was near impossible to get the tubes into their sweet spot without blowing everyone away at club gigs.

    Solution= Less watts.

    I buy the Egnater Rebel(which I love) in an effort to have fewer watts(20) and get the tubes cranked at small club gigs. The downside is lack of clean headroom.

    Problem= Lots of watts= Too damn much power for small gigs.

    Lower wattage amps= Get the tubes cookin' but lose your clean headroom.

    I'm losing my mind. Is there a solution?
     
  2. smolder

    smolder Gold Supporting Member

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    nope - you just need more than one amp.
     
  3. Flyin' Brian

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    A clean amp and pedals. Also, the jump from 60 watts to 20 was pretty severe. Maybe 35 watts or so would have done it.
     
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    this is right there. . . .

    http://www.sommatone.com/roaring-20-40.html

    master volume 40 watter. . . .

    (60+20)/2 . . .. :AOK


    i played the 20 yesterday. totally incredible cleans. master maxxxxxxed out. . . tweak to taste via input volume.

    not enough? go for the 40. . . .it has a power switch option!!!!

    ALL EL84s. . .the 40 has a quad set. . . .
     
  5. scott1568

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    Yes, find out what the efficiency rating of your speaker is. Then try to find one that is more efficient to give you more clean headroom. A difference of 3 db would be dramatic.

    "a speaker with an efficency of 90 dB will be able to use half the power of a speaker with an efficiency of 87 dB to achieve the same volume (provided the two speakers have similar power ratings." according to everything2.com

    The problem is, that new speaker may be voiced differently and this may get expensive as you jump from speaker to speaker.

    I would send Ted Weber an e-mail. I have found him to be prompt, informative, and generous with his help.
     
  6. DavidE

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    40 watter with a power attenuator?
     
  7. jimmyohio75

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    Is it possible to run two separate amp heads through the same cab (in a live gig situation)?

    One for clean and one for dirty?
     
  8. tennisplayer

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    I don't know Jimmy. My Supersonic on the Bassman channel was just fine and with pedals for my OD worked great. I did not like the Burn channel. You don't need smokin tubes for a nice clean sound.
     
  9. jimmyohio75

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    I wonder if the '59 Bassman would do the trick, especially since you are only using the bassman channel on your SS? Of course the bassman is a bit larger than the SS. I wonder how easy it is to transport?
     
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    Playing clean is for girlyboys. Play dirty all the time. I do.
     
  11. jimmyohio75

    jimmyohio75 Member

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    Good point
     
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    It is. Radial Engineering makes a unit called the headbone for switching between two heads into one cab.
     
  13. jimmyohio75

    jimmyohio75 Member

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    What does it cost?
     
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    Your soul. Try Google. :BEER
     
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    fyp
     
  16. pitner

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    I had that same problem with my 1959 Guild 20 watt amp which is similar to an old tweed fender deluxe. I could never get that country spank no matter how hard I tried. What worked for me is a HBE CPR compressor, a modified Boss GE-7 and (don't laugh) BBE Sonic Stomp. I cured that beast from its tendency to be just a blues or rock amp. Clean headroom is perfect and loud. I also boost with a Menatone VOS for fender stuff to keep up with my gibsons. Try it and see if it works then you don't need two amps.
     
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    Jimmy, you've got to try a lower gain tube in V1 first. Should get you more headroom. Worth a shot...........
     
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    Yeah but I don't want to lose any gain!! Won't this cause a drop in gain? IMO the level of distortion on this thing is the best part of the amp!!
     
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    I am confused. So are you really looking for a channel switcher?
     
  20. jimmyohio75

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    My band plays about 3-4 clean songs in a 15 song set. I have no problem walking to the amp mid-set and changing the knobs to take the dirt out for the clean songs. If the Rebel had 2 channels with a footswitch to toogle between the two it would be too good to be true. The two main things that drew me to the Rebel were the portability(with the 1x12 cab) and the thick, awesome distorted sounds. If I can get decent cleans at reasonable volumes I am happy. My previous Fender Supersonic was a great amp but just a bit too powerful for the small clubs we play, almost always mic'd. My only concern with the Rebel is for the rare large, outdoor gig that requires a good amount of clean headroom for the 3-4 clean songs we do. I might simply have to bring 2 amps for these rare shows. One for clean, The Rebel for dirty.
     

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