To Grover or Not to Grover

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Herb Utsmelz, Jun 28, 2014.

  1. Bossanova

    Bossanova Silver Supporting Member

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    No, no, no! Get some kluson locking vintage tuners in there instead. Look at the difference, front and back:
     
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    Wow, that post was like 5 years ago.....
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    I noticed this was a necrothread but I always enjoy seeing other Page LP sig pictures. Beautiful guitar! Thanks for sharing!
     
  5. Lotis

    Lotis Silver Supporting Member

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    Do Not Grover. Ever.
     
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    Several years ago I found a set of Grovers for Gibson-style three on a side headstocks in the case of a guitar that I bought used. I kept them but didn't use them until just a few months ago. About a year ago I bought a late 1970s Montaya bolt neck Les Paul copy that a previous owner had put Grovers on. But they were a rather strange kind of Grover locking tuners. I like the guitar but did not like the tuners. So I put the set of Grovers I found in a guitar case on it. They fit right in there. And now I like the tuners that are on that guitar.
     
  7. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    five years later and the original answer still stands; the stock gotoh klusons on reissues are better than grovers and lighter.
     
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  8. mschafft

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    Tone Pros made tulip type tuning keys in cream and black too.
     
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    I've never had to ream out any Gibson to Grovers on them? I thought all Gibsons used the same size hole for the tuners. I've also never had a problem with Grovers but I think most of the one's I had were older, when did Grover move production?
     
  10. twotone

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    My R9 is an Epiphone Les Paul Standard with Grovers. I like it. :D
     
  11. Laurence

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    Well, since the thread has come back to life...I have guitars that came with Grovers and I live with them. Not my favorites by a long shot. I like Kluson key & button type on Gibsons, and Fender "safety" tuners (or equivalent, it seems to me those styles are pretty consistent from various company's constructing a quality product) on Fender style guitars.
     
  12. zombiwoof

    zombiwoof Supporting Member

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    Modern Gibsons with screw-bushing tuners probably won't require reaming, but those with vintage press-in bushing tuners will.
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    Ahh. Didn't realize they switched sizes at some point. All of my Gibsons have been 90's or later.
     
  14. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    nope, depends on the model.

    some have the screw-on collar bushing, they're big enough for any other screw-on collar bushing tuner like the grover. some like the historics have the true vintage-style slide-in collars that take smaller headstock holes, those would have to be widened out to take a screw-on collar tuner.
     
  15. Dannyz

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    Geeks are goin to love this vid. Kluson vs Grovers and a pseudo-scientific approach:

     
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