Tolex...WHY, WHY, WHY!?

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  1. popsongsmith

    popsongsmith Senior Member

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    We are living in an age in which scientists can approximate the conditions of the universe one-TRILLIONth of a second after the big bang using a massive particle accelerator, but we can't come up with a better amplifier covering that the absolutely pathetic tolex material that scuffs and tears after one gig.

    WTF?
     
  2. le_plastique

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    I've often wondered if one could coat a cab with that stuff they use to line the beds of trucks. It wouldn't be the prettiest... but it'd be tough. Not sure how it would change the sound though.
     
  3. edward

    edward Supporting Member

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    Answer: tradition. Folks are accustomed to the look so that look is "right." That, and not enough people seem to care enough that they've made it an "issue" to maufacturers. ...my ovservation, anyway.

    Edward
     
  4. fullerplast

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    Got a new Vox, did ya? ;)

    Leo got it right in the sixties. Sometimes the new mousetraps don't actually get any better....
     
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    Read here on this forum thats exactly what some one did with goode results. Bob
     
  6. Jahn

    Jahn Listens to Johnny Marr, plays like John Denver Supporting Member

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    i feared for my blackface princeton amp after my doggie took a liking to licking my leatherish guitar cases. but miracles of miracles, Tolex must be like smoking vulcanized rubber to doggies because she hasn't even sniffed at it once, it's like a totally different thing to her. all hail tolex!
     
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    The big disadvantage to truck bed liner is weight.
     
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    Vader cabinets also spray thiers with truck liner - pretty cool IMO
     
  10. carbz

    carbz Supporting Member

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    I thought the relic look was in? Oh wait thats guitars not amps.
     
  11. macmax77

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    the worst of them all is one of the prettiest, the Orange Tolex

    Man, you need to bring the cab in a Glass cage wrapped in pillows so it won't scratch
     
  12. quinnamps

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    Truck liner/Rhino liner is the way to go I think. Still doing tolex for now but some of the new amps are going to be sporting a stronger skin soon enough.
    The best part is it is easily repaired when it does get scuffed and scratched and crazy cool custom colors.
     
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    art_z Silver Supporting Member

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    that Duratuff crap that Carvin and Crate (Fender too?) used to put on amps was pretty indestructible. It also looked like ass, and not the good kind. That being said, I had a cabinet and amp cover made for my main Matamp rig and they are almost ding free after 4 years of regular gigging (1 gig per month on average) loading in and out of a Subaru WRX wagon.
     
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    the wood might loose resonance with that, won't it?
     
  15. popsongsmith

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    Easy, guy. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ; ^ ]

    Seriously though, I was thinking of something more along the lines of a quasi-kevlar IED-proof lattice weave matrix polymer compound miracle microfiber fabric, or some such sh!t...
     
  16. DaveK

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    I think Randall Smith has a patent on it already - diamond plate! ;)
     
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    But... with the truck bed liner... you many lose resonance in the room, but for gigs, and even recording, you're micing right off the speaker, and not going to notice that near as much as standing next to it.

    Kyle
     
  18. quinnamps

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    Time will tell but from previous experience I think so long as you don't spray the insides you can still have a very lively cab.
    That said if it is a tone killer then it simply won't be an option.
    I am hopeful though.
     
  19. The Captain

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    On the subject of resonance, you don't really want it.
    Bowers and Wlikinson speakers, which do some crazy high end stuff, go to great lengths to make their speaker cabinets strong and immovable, otherwise the whole box acts like a speaker cone, which leads to flubbing, like a doof-doof car. What you hear half a mile away is not the sub, but the whole car acting like a secondary speaker cone.
    Spraying your cab with an epoxy skin is likely to improve things, and help reduce flubbing. Of course, open backs help a lot too.
    BTW, waht's on D13 stuf. It looks soft, but I was surprised to feel how hard it is.
     
  20. Dickie Fredericks

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    Its called a case. Get one and be glad you did.
     

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