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Toneczar waitlist gone???

tremolo3

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I don't understand how can he charge $725 for a pedal??! I get it that it is his own will and people will still buy it blindly but.. really? 700 bucks can already set you for a nice Fender MIM guitar and a Vox amp!
Not a fair comparison; Fender and Vox are huge corporations, bro.

Consider most hobbyists musicians don't see gear as actual tools, and that's fine I guess.
 

JDandCoke

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I dig all his pedals but the echoczar will always be a hard sell for me.

At that price youre in the realms of real re201s and binsons. The tape stuff might be less reliable but i bet theyre easier to fix when they do go wrong. Echoczar dying on me mid tour would be a pretty big kick in the nuts
 

scotticus

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I dig all his pedals but the echoczar will always be a hard sell for me.

At that price youre in the realms of real re201s and binsons. The tape stuff might be less reliable but i bet theyre easier to fix when they do go wrong. Echoczar dying on me mid tour would be a pretty big kick in the nuts
Where are you finding functioning echorecs for $1000?
 

exodus

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I too had no issues dealing with Ed, in fact I got Echoczar and Angelbaby in 6 weeks instead of the 8 weeks he quoted. Didn’t ask questions at all. Anyway the Shin-ei Vibe-Bro combo is 998.00 and it’s a vibe pedal.
hahaha...I was just thinking to myself while reading this thread, "guess I shouldn't mention what I paid for my Unique Vibe" (not that its relevant).
 

cj_wattage

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Gotcha. While I’d still love to try an Echoczar, I’d love to OWN a space echo or vintage echorec.
I borrowed an EchoCzar for a couple weeks. I've also owned two Space Echoes. For the same money, the Space Echo is far superior in my opinion (in terms of tone). Of course, the EC is a lot smaller/lighter and more easily portable, which matters a lot for the guy or gal who is hauling gear on the reg. But I mean, they sound nothing alike, so if you want that tape sound and classic modulation, you really need the RE-201...or, you know, an El Capistan, which destroys everything else in terms of tone vs cost vs size vs features.

In my opinion, of course. :)

And for the record, after owning and/or extensively demoing dozens of delay pedals and tape echoes, the one I still have on my board is a DMM XO (lightly moded by me to extend the max delay time). But I do plan to pick up another El Cap because it's such a great value for what you get... again, in my opinion. A ton of other guys love the EchoCzar and it's the only thing that works for them. I totally respect that.
 

scotticus

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I borrowed an EchoCzar for a couple weeks. I've also owned two Space Echoes. For the same money, the Space Echo is far superior in my opinion (in terms of tone). Of course, the EC is a lot smaller/lighter and more easily portable, which matters a lot for the guy or gal who is hauling gear on the reg. But I mean, they sound nothing alike, so if you want that tape sound and classic modulation, you really need the RE-201...or, you know, an El Capistan, which destroys everything else in terms of tone vs cost vs size vs features.

In my opinion, of course. :)

And for the record, after owning and/or extensively demoing dozens of delay pedals and tape echoes, the one I still have on my board is a DMM XO (lightly moded by me to extend the max delay time). But I do plan to pick up another El Cap because it's such a great value for what you get... again, in my opinion. A ton of other guys love the EchoCzar and it's the only thing that works for them. I totally respect that.
Thanks for the insight!
 

tinkercity

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Had my Echoczar for years it's a great unit, that said the moog 104m is my favorite delay and is in the same ballpark as far as the cost. I can't catch a break lol! It's all good, I really don't care how much something is if I " think" I need it. Priorities you know.. I like the guys stuff but I do agree this might be too little and too late. the market is too flooded with pedals currently for anyone to really care.
Killer board. What's that FF? Just gave a follow on IG ;)
 

Tompski

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I waited on the list years ago and got an Echoczar but couldn’t justify owning such an exclusive pedal , I sold it on eBay, people went a bit crazy for it and I was able to buy a used but mint DRRI for £650 which would be unheard of now. I have been modding and playing that amp for years and it’s a beauty! I think these pedals are gorgeous, and my dealings with Toneczar were friendly and professional, but the fact I was able to recycle an expensive pedal in to an amp must have some perspective?
 

Occam

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Ive wanted a vault, opemhause and dove for years but I just cant justify the prices when there are so many 'equal' pedals i want to try at half or a third the price

Vault for 250 id be all over
Show me an equal Vault and I’ll buy two, till then, I’m keeping mine.
 

pup tentacle

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I too had no issues dealing with Ed, in fact I got Echoczar and Angelbaby in 6 weeks instead of the 8 weeks he quoted. Didn’t ask questions at all. Anyway the Shin-ei Vibe-Bro combo is 998.00 and it’s a vibe pedal.
The fact the Vibe-Bro is horribly overpriced doesn't help justify the overpricing of other pedals, and for $998 they could at least put a symmetry control on that thing.
 

Adam Zaiger

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Ed has always been awesome with me. He genuinely wants people to be happy with his products, hence the questions, and calling him a jerk is totally out-of-line. Don't you think it would really be a bummer to buy one of his pedals after a long wait and then find out it didn't work for you (for a reason that he could have easily explained before you put your name on the list)?
 

JDandCoke

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Show me an equal Vault and I’ll buy two, till then, I’m keeping mine.
Guess I meant, pedal I'd equally like to try.

Vault looks/sounds wicked but I'd also like to try so many others. It just doesn't make sense for me to 'try' the 1000$ pedal first in case I like it when I could try much cheaper pedals that I also might like.
I think if you've already had hands on time with it, and it works for you then that's $ justified, it's much harder to justify vs other pedals when it's still a 'maybe' pedal.
 




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