Too many pedals for my board...which ones to keep?

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  1. Steven White

    Steven White Member

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    Hey guys! I have a dilemma...

    I have a homemade pedal board that I'm looking at filling up.

    Problem I have is I have limited space and too many pedals.

    I'm interested in what pedals you would DEFINITELY put on the board, and which would you DEFINITELY NOT put on the board....

    I am in a band that cover a lot of genres.....funk to country to pop to metal to blues.
    I'd like to have a vast array of sounds.

    The pedals I own are:-
    Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
    Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble
    Boss NS-2 Noise Suppressor
    Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
    Boss DS-1 Distortion
    Boss CS-3 Compressor
    Boss WL-50 Wireless System
    Vox Wah
    TC Electronic Ditto Looper
    TC Electronic Mini Spark Boost
    TC Electronic Dark Matter Distortion
    TC Electronic MojoMojo Overdrive
    TC Electronic Polytune Tuner
    Ammoon Octa Octave Pedal
    Mooer Acoustika Acoustic Simulator
    Digitech Whammy
    Big Muff Pi

    Also, if you could, please tell me what order you'd put your chosen pedals in the chain....

    Thanks guys!! Stay safe all of you :)
     
  2. John Mark Painter

    John Mark Painter Member

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    When your board gets that big...it’s time for a MultiFX.
    We can’t tell you what pedals you don’t ‘need’ but I can tell you to get an HX Effects

    That’s what I did
     
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  3. Steven White

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    Thanks John...

    I was very tempted by the Helix.....but for now I'd really like to stick to the stomp boxes. :)
     
  4. HERSCHEL

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    If you have a homemade board, home make a bigger one. It's not like you're going anywhere for a while. :rimshot

    I'd probably go Tuner -> Wah -> Acoustikar -> Whammy -> Spark Mini -> Big Muff -> SD-1 -> DS-1 -> CS-3.
     
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  5. Steven White

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    Hey, thanks! Haha, i'm can't really make a bigger board as its built to fit inside a flight case unfortunately. :)

    Out of interest, can you tell me why you'd put the Big Muff before the overdrive and not after the DS1? Also, why would you put the CS3 last in the chain, I always thought it had to go straight after the tuner.....
     
  6. golgo13

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    Noise Suppressor does not exist in my world c'mon man we need so noise !!!! like him

     
  7. Steven White

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    Love this performance!!!
     
  8. your name here

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    Answer:

    Make a new board with a hinged top deck. Place pedals you don’t need to tweak on the fly under the top deck and use a switcher/MIDI to turn them on and off.

    Same sized board. More pedals. You’re welcome. :beer
     
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  10. OotMagroot

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    If it were me, I'd keep:

    SD-1 for Overdrive/Boost
    Dark Matter for Distortion
    Big Muff for Fuzz
    Mini Spark to Boost
    CE-5 for the Chorus
    DD-3 for the Delay
     
  11. Vhailor

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    Let me propose a scientific solution to your dilemma!

    Either choose the pedals so that you only have one of every color, or choose them so that they are all the same color.

    As for pedal order: if you choose the multi-color route, follow the order of the spectrum: ROYGBIV.

    But if choosing all the same color pedals, go from lighter shade to darker.

    If you have any questions, simply re-read Newton's treatise on optics. ( https://archive.org/details/Optics_285/mode/2up or https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33504/33504-h/33504-h.htm and also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opticks for an overview!)

    Problem solved - scientifically!

    : )
     
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  12. HERSCHEL

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    Spark before, SD-1 after. The Spark is to push it, the SD-1 is to shape it in to a usable sound in a mix (re: add mids, as needed).

    I MUCH prefer compressor after dirt.There it takes all your glorious chaos and tames it a bit, dynamically, and sustains said tone. Right after the tuner pushes a squashed signal in to your dirt. It's a preference thing.
     
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  13. mrpinter

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    First tell us how many pedals (Boss size) will fit on your board. Then I'll have some fun and make some choices.
     
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  14. sanfi4u

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    What are your Boss pedals? Versions? Production years? They changed substantially over the years.
    I'm not a fan of TC Electronic modern overdrives. And I'd swap Mini Spark Boost with a big box Spark Boost if space allows.
     
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  15. Steven White

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    Hey Mr Pinter! Thank you! Ok, with the Wah and Whammy(which is huge!) on the board, i can fit 6 boss pedals on....with just the Wah i can fit 10 boss pedals........and without the Wah, 12. :)
     
  16. Steven White

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    Hey, to be honest I don't have a clue about versions or years of any of the pedals......I'm a newbie to all this.... :-( I know what you mean about the TC Electronic stuff though, I prefer the Boss.
     
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  17. Steven White

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    Brilliant! Thanks! In regards to the Compressor, would you have it on all the time? If not, when would you use it? I'm new to compressors.... :-(
     
  18. mrpinter

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    With Whammy & Wah:
    Whammy>Wah>Polytune>Compressor>SD-1>Big Muff>Chorus>Delay

    With just the Wah (no Whammy)
    Wah>Polytune>compressor>Acoustic Simulator>Spark Boost>SD-1>Big Muff>Octave Pedal>Chorus>Delay>Ditto Looper

    Without either Whammy or Wah: add a couple more drive pedals after the SD-1
     
  19. sanfi4u

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    OK, then here's a helping hand :)
    Check a Serial Number on your Boss pedal and then use Boss Serial Decoder to get the Production Date.
    Now your list...
    Boss DD-3 Digital Delay - DD3 (1986-Dec 1990; MIJ (Made in Japan); Long Chip; same pedal as DD-2); DD-3A (MIT (Made in Taiwan); December 1990 – August 2001; new shorter DSP gate array chip); DD-3B (MIT; August 2001 – present; new type of DRAM; SMD based PCB); DD3 & DD-3A are recommended. Long chip DD3 is the best.
    Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble - Blue Label (MIT, Nov 1991 - ??, analog); Pink Label (MIT, ?? - Oct 2001), analog); Dark Gray Label (MIT, since Oct 2001; digital); Blue and Pink label pedals are preferable.
    Boss NS-2 Noise Suppressor - MIJ - Sep 1987-Dec 1989; MIT since Dec 1989. Any ver. suits.
    Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive - MIJ Black Label in production since Feb 1981; MIT Black Label since early 1988; Silver Label (PSA compatible) since early 1997; newer black box SD-1 are SMD based since mid 2018. So I'd avoid them.
    Boss DS-1 Distortion - Black Label, MIJ (1978-1988); Black Label, MIT (1988-1994); Silver Label, MIT (1994-2000- Rev.2; 2000-2006- Rev.3; 2006-2016 – Rev.4); since June 2017- DS-1 (B) SMD based pedal (avoid it).
    Boss CS-3 Compressor - Black Label, MIJ (Sep 1986-1988); Black Label, MIT (1988-1997); Silver Label, MIT (1997-now); minor design variations in 90s. But essentially pedal design stayed the same. I didn't hear about SMD versions yet . I have 2 CS-3 compressors (1988 and 1994). They are capable compressors. So I suggest you to keep yours.
    Hope this helps a bit. Now it's your turn. :)
     
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    Boss WL-50 Wireless System
    Vox Wah
    Boss CS-3 Compressor
    TC Electronic Polytune Tuner
    Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive
    TC Electronic Dark Matter Distortion
    TC Electronic MojoMojo Overdrive
    TC Electronic Mini Spark Boost
    Boss CE-5 Chorus Ensemble
    Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
     

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