Trey Phish Style Backwards delay?

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  1. Apollovt18

    Apollovt18 Member

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    Hello all!

    I am a big Phish fan and love Treys playing! I am looking for a backwards delay like the one in this video. I was thinking maybe a TC Electronics Flashback one i could make a preset for?

    Any recommendations?

     
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  2. charmonder

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    so that's technically a reverse reverb, and IMO tends to be more useful effect than reverse delay. The patch You could probably find something a LOT similar to that exact microverb preset on TC hall of fame, ZOOM msr-70cdr , or the old yamaha magic stomp was absolute OVERKILL for getting all of the 90s rack style reverb/delay patches onto a pedalboard.

    But yes you could likely even do something like this using TC flashback tone print editor but it wont be "reverse delay" itll be multi tap delay and youll have to dial it in to make each tap slightly louder than the one before it.
     
  3. Apollovt18

    Apollovt18 Member

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    So this one? Zoom MS-70CDR
     
  4. charmonder

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    yeah I would be shocked if that pedal didn't have reverse reverb
     
  5. Apollovt18

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    So my question is why does trey describe it is as reverse delay?
     
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    misa Silver Supporting Member

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    My sense from watching that clip is that he sees it as an echo/delay because the loudness of the reverse reverb comes in like a gradual slapback. In Trey's defense, he does say it is "like a backwards delay."
     
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  7. Apollovt18

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    So how do I get that sound? I was looking at because the TC Hall of Fame does not have reverse option.
     
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    The cheapest thing is probably to pick up an old MicroVerb and have exactly the same thing as Trey. This Reverb article points to a few pedals: https://reverb.com/news/what-is-reverse-reverb-and-how-do-i-use-it
     
  9. charmonder

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    :oops: I spoke too soon, I figured a pedal with as many features as that would have it, but that is not the case.
     
  10. groovington

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    TC Nova Repeater has reverse delay... Funny thing is I know Trey had that on his board at one point. Not sure if he still does. The Alsesis Microverb I can be had for super cheap though, so just get that.
     
  11. Apollovt18

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    So I got a micro reverb, cheep. So how do I hook it up? Lol totally newbie when it comes to rack effects
     
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    If you have an effects loop with a line level that might work....
     
  13. Apollovt18

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    Going into a blues jr so no effects loop.i am also wondering how trey turns it on and off I am assuming it’s not on all the time
     
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    You can use one of those boss footswitches to toggle it on and off. Or find a cheap true bypass looper to run it through. Also, per your previous question, it can work well on the back row of your pedal board, and you can even stack one or two effects on top of it (2 if they are mxr size enclosures), making them easier to stomp on in the back row. It's referred to as a 1/2 rack, but truly it is just one third the size of a real rack unit. And they're built like a tank, so don't worry about stomping a pedal on top of it.
     
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    A great reverse delay is the discontinued Danelectro Back Talk.

    I think I bought mine a year ago for $180 used.

    It has a nice oscillation.
     
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    Doesn't the Boss PS-3 have a backwards-delay mode? The notes are even pitch-shifted, so I bet it's great.
     
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    I still use the old line6 tonecore Echo Park for this on the tape with modulation setting .... I leave it on instead of reverb... or its really nice into amp reverb.
     
  18. diego.fresh

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    Ventris does this pretty well. On the pricier side, but it can do SO much.
     
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    I love the lick he does to demonstrate how he uses it. I bought a Microverb years ago because I liked that sound so much. But after a couple of years of not using it since I don't have much opportunity to incorporate something like it, I sold it. One of those things that seems like it would be awesome to have (in theory).
     
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    Reviving this as I am in the market for a reverse reverb. On the list:

    SA Ventris
    Empress Reverb
    EH Cathedral
    Digitech Polara

    Any others? One better than another? I also have no fx loop so the microverb (though priced well and available) is less desirable for my rig.
     

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