TungSol ECC803S

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  1. BozoTone

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    ...OK...has anybody here had a chance to check these out yet???I am probably going to grab a 803 (E83CC) and am trying to decide between the TungSols or the Teslas (not JJ's).....
     
  2. RussB

    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    JJ makes the ECC803S long-plate.

    Tung-Sol has the 12AX7 (new-manufacture)

    Funny you should ask...I just bought another 6 of each from Doug's Tubes Both are great, affordable tubes, BTW, and Doug stands behind his products :)
     
  3. rockon1

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    Actually I just searched this . Came up with this.Evidently they DO make a Tung Sol ECC803s. I wonder if its just a gold pin version of the regular model? Hmmm...


    http://cgi.ebay.ca/Tung-Sol-ECC803S...itemZ5831762244QQcategoryZ71566QQcmdZViewItem
     
  4. RussB

    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    Hmm, I stand corrected

    That's a lot of cash if it's just the pins...
     
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    I've been using the JJ's in my matchless-style amp. They are awesome.
     
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    I've been using the new JJECC803S with great success. I have two of the (reissue) Tung Sol 12AX7's, and quite honestly I prefer the JJECC803S, but the Tung Sol's are a REALLY nice sounding tube in their own right. I'll have to get one of the (new) Tung Sol ECC803S Gold Pins to try out, but they are listed at $60.90 (US) on the New Sensor web page! :eek:

    I think I'll shop around a see if I can them from a reliable source for a little less than $60.90 a tube. That's a LOT of money for a current production pre amp tube.

    Chuck
     
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    I didnt want to get off topic but ,yeah, Im using the JJ ECC803s too and think they sound great. I got turned off to the jj pre amp tubes with everybody raving about the ECC83s and I tried it and found it kind of too smooth and dull. I decided to give the ECC803 a shot and was nicely surprised. Seemed to have everything the ECC83s had and a nice top end-not dull. As for the Tungsol ECC803s check out the link I posted. The seller wants 30$ a pop for them.I wonder whom the seller is. Big inventory and good prices on a lot of tubes. I wont buy off E-bay so unless I figure out the company and call Im out of luck with that one.
     
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    My impression, too, of the earlier JJ's. I'll have to give the new long plate version a try.....it'd be nice to have an alternative to the Ei long plate tubes, which I've been using for some time and really like.
     
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    I bet you will like them. Of coarse what works in one amp may not in another.
     
  10. BozoTone

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    I'm not considering the JJ at all...the other 803 (E83CC) is/was made by Tesla and are supposed to be very close sonically to a Telefunken ECC803S...I think the Teslas are in the $45-$60 range...I have a reissue TungSol AX7 that I think is one of the best of the new production bulbs, and just thought their 803 might be worth a shot based on the AX7.....
     
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    First I heard of it.(TS ECC803s)So I googled it and found them on E-bay.Looking at pics of both the regular tungsol and the gold pin version the guts look very similar. FWIW-I have some gold pin Ei's and Ive found them difficult to install as the gold plating makes the pins thicker-kind of scary really to need to put that much pressure on sockets just to ninstall them. I'm avoiding buying any more gold plated tubes for this reason.BTW-Have you tried the new JJECC803s? I think its a great new production for little $.
     
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    Everyone that has demoed my Franklin 15 amp has absolutely loved the JJ ECC803S preamp tubes. Andy at Mojo was telling me that he a high reject rate so he's not carrying them. Bob at Eurotubes screened all his stuff very well and I've not had a dud yet. I've bought about a dozen so far.
     
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    Russ, it's the same TS reissue 12AX7 with gold plated pins....

    Gold pins have zero effect on tone, so yes, it is quite a bit of chunk for gold plating even if the price of gold has been going up.
     
  14. Occam

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    I think I'm the only person on Earth that just can't stand JJ preamp tubes. I've tried a couple and they all have the same, thin, buzzy high end that sounds its worst when it distorts and sounds like a boss ds-1.
     
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    Trust me, you're not the only one. As always, ears, amps, and personal taste vary quite a bit. The is absolutely NO consensus on tone.
     
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    Nope,however, I dislike them for what I percieve is the EXACT opposite sound! lol. I found thier JJECC83s too be to smooth and dull sounding. No high end sizzle at all! Then I tried the 803 and I thought it was great-it actually had some high end. Funny how these things are percieved by different p[eople.
     
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    Hey - I'm the other guy that cant stand JJ Pre Tubes:D

    I almost sold an amp because it sounded so bad, as a last resort I swapped out the JJ ec83s for something else and it was like a blanket was lifted off the amp.

    I do like the JJ el34L though...........

    JQ
     
  18. SuperReverb2

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    I'll "third" the fact that I didn't like JJ pre amp tubes either, (I agree fully with dull and lifeless) until the JJ ECC803 tubes came along. Those, as I posted earlier, I REALLY like! I'm still not sold on their 6L6's either as they seem to bias a lot colder than other tubes, and I have had trouble finding an amp that has the (stock) bias range to get them "cooking." I DO LIKE the JJ EL84's and the JJ 6V6's though.

    Chuck
     

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