Tuning/retuning for slide during a set

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  1. TubeStack

    TubeStack Supporting Member

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    Anyone do this?

    I've always had a second guitar tuned to open-E or A for slide, but lately I've been in a minimalist, strip it down mode.

    I'm thinking about just bringing one guitar and putting it in an open tuning for 2-3 songs and then retuning it to standard. It just seems that doing that will affect the general tuning stability...

    Anyone do this live?

    (Also, I don't want to keep it in standard tuning and play slide that way, I really like open tunings.)
     
  2. JonR

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    IMO, tuning stability should not be a problem. The only issue should be the time it takes to retune. Maybe have some chat ready to fill the void (even if short).
     
  3. guitarjazz

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    Yeah, on my Variax.
     
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    Right. I can do it pretty fast, but our bass player is good with the banter, just in case.
     
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    NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! :D
     
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    I do it live sometimes, have to change tunings, add a capo etc.
    I just put the bottleneck stuff at the end of the set so I don't have to do it onstage twice.
     
  8. DavidE

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    +1!
     
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    I have found that most guitars flex enough that they will go out slightly after retuning. If you go from open D to standard, they'll drift flat and drift sharp going the other way. Some are more prone to drifting than others but I still take two or more guitars out to a gig. I do use different action and strings for slide as well.
     
  10. DJG105

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    I've always retuned mid-set, sometimes up to 4 times or so. I've never brought a back-up to a gig.

    I've found that locking tuners do NOT like that very much, and strings will only put up with that kind of treatment for so long before they fatigue and break at the tuner lock mechanism. I'd observed it on 3 different guitars, 2 with sperzels, one with grover auto-lockers. I've either ditched the lockers or stopped gigging those guitars for shows that require retuning frequently.

    Otherwise- i haven't had any tuning stability issues.
     
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  11. TubeStack

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    Okay, thanks, guys. I'll give it a try. :beer
     
  12. KirschwasserFromAShell

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    When I played in a band that required some songs with slide, I would only bring one guitar (a '52 RI Tele) and tune the high E down to a D which gave me EADGBD. This gave me a sort of hybrid standard/open G tuning. I used the upper four strings as the open G tuning for slide (DGBD). However I also had a mostly intact standard tuning if I needed to play a few licks in the middle of slide.

    Being a 2nd guitarist, I didn't have to play many chords for slide, or if I did, muted the low E and A so that I had the open G chord to use with the slide.

    Re-tuning mid-set was much easier since I was only dealing with one string. Good luck! Hope you find something that works for you.
     

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