Tweed 5E3,stock or mods?

go7

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Having sold my old Fender Tweed 5E3 to a collector type I bought a Mission kit 5E3 second hand already built.Weber 12A125,V1 RCA 12ay7,V2 Tesla Rosnov E83CC, Brimar 6V6`s. I am torn between leaving it stock or installing the following mods as suggested by Bruce at Mission amps.
mod 1;Tone volume mod kit.Suppost to give the knobs a larger more friendly sweep keeping the interaction of volume knobs.
mod 2;The dual Mission amps switchable "humbuckler" flub/flatulence reduction kit[has mini toggle on back to bypass] includes the Paul C mod.
Anyone with any experience w/ these mods please chime in and offer your opinions.
 

go7

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Yeah, I was reading some other threads on similar topics on the Deluxe.I`m thinking now I may just leave it stock.
 

DrewB

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The farty bottom can be controlled somewhat by using the volume controls' interaction to your advantage. I plug a Les Paul into the bright #1 input of my Mission 5E3 kit build (Cannabis Rex speaker) and set the tone at 10 1/3 and both volumes just under 9 without bridging the channels. The normal-channel volume control helps set the mids where you want them; all the way down is the most midrange and compression, while higher settings pull the mids back enough to help with articulation.
 

Peppy

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It's not like it's a vintage and valuable piece...mod it. Can't it be "unmodded" later anyway?
 

Trout

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If you want to tackle a 5E3 based on a lot of well documented info,

This is a great read on the How's and Why's of the 5E3. It addresses the majority of complaints with the original circuit.

Of course as with any mod, it is no longer a "Purest 5E3" but either way, It is a great read!

This is a 27 page PDF file, so depending on your connect, you might want to save the file to your HD.

5E3 Deluxe Project

Enjoy
 

teleamp

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If you want to tackle a 5E3 based on a lot of well documented info,

This is a great read on the How's and Why's of the 5E3. It addresses the majority of complaints with the original circuit.

Of course as with any mod, it is no longer a "Purest 5E3" but either way, It is a great read!

This is a 27 page PDF file, so depending on your connect, you might want to save the file to your HD.

5E3 Deluxe Project

Enjoy
Yes. that is a very good article, the most amusing part was the price of labor to build a Weber 5E3. I did try one of the mods...removing the bypass cap from the second stage of the preamp and it raises headroom as well as giving the volume a larger sweep.

MikeY
 

Trout

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Yes. that is a very good article, the most amusing part was the price of labor to build a Weber 5E3. I did try one of the mods...removing the bypass cap from the second stage of the preamp and it raises headroom as well as giving the volume a larger sweep.

MikeY
Could you imagine paying that??? LMBO

$4000.00 design and build total, I guess that explains current dumble build costs :D

Total Cost = 4,000 + 466.50 = 4,466.50 including kit and parts :AOK

I can see the negative feedback being a possible virtue also, just do not use to much, maybe a 75k-100k resistor to limit its overall effect.

Trout​
 

hasserl

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Note that the Vol/Tone mod does not keep the interaction of the volume controls, it seperates them like the larger tweed amps. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is quite different than stock.

My latest amp was designed around a 5E3, and I did both the Vol mod (not Bruce's, my own, but similar) and the PaulC mod as well as a couple of others to cut some of the bass and tighten up the bottom end. It's a kick ass amp, but it's not a 5E3 any more. But that's alright, It fits what I do better than a real 5E3, IMO it's a better 5E3.
 

tybone

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I haven't moded the circuit yet but I do change the tubes around and get a speaker that handles the bass a little better.

Larry
 

go7

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Thanks all .Great info. I`m going to leave it stock and put any mods on the backburner. Enjoy!
 




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