Tweed + Blackface in a Pedal

[sausagemahoney]

Last night I ran a Bassman 20 (BF derived 20 watt circuit with a 15" speaker) in stereo with a 5e3, and the tones I was getting was incredible. Where frequencies were missing from one, the other had them. I'm not one to justify carrying around 2 amps, so is there a pedal that I could use with the Bassman that could emulate something like that? Are there 2 channel amps with tweed and blackface tone stacks that you can blend? Thanks

 

[Blues Lyne]

I don't know that you'd get the same thing from a pedal or from blending tone stacks. I think part of what sounds great with that combo is that the sounds are coming from two different sources. I used to do the same thing with a BF Fender and a Tweed Gibson Falcon. The Fender gave me the nice highs and solid lows and the Falcon provided the sweet warm mids. I carried those around for a while. The down side is that you have to mic both, if you are micing your rig, and hope the soundman keeps them both mixed equally.

Having said that, you could try a Barber Barb EQ. It has a switch that switches between blackface, tweed and Marshall tonestacks. It does sound good into a BF type amp using the tweed tone stack. It probably won't sound as nice as two amps, but might get you closer.

If your amp has two channels (like the BF Fenders have) you could try splitting your signal into both channels with the Barb EQ only run into one channel. That would give you one BF channel and one tweed-like channel mixed. Nevermind, I just looked up the Bassman 20. Looks like it only has one channel.

 

[ROKY]

With amps of that size you should just go ahead and schlep 'em and enjoy
the tones you're getting .

 

[Blues Lyne]

With amps of that size you should just go ahead and schlep 'em and enjoy
the tones you're getting .

That was my first thought too.

 

[ROKY]

That was my first thought too.

Yeah, I think in this case it's not too unreasonable an idea .

 

[sausagemahoney]

The Barb EQ idea sounds good. Would a tone stack lift give a similar effect? The only problem with the 2 amps thing is that the 5E3 is a head and the only cab I have right now is a 115. Since most of the people I jam with don't have cars, mine usually has people saxophones, and drums everywhere.

 

[PatrickE_FenderADV]

I'm not one to justify carrying around 2 amps...

Yeah... I went through this too. I ended up going the way of a BF type amp and a tweed OD pedal. I also have an AC type pedal. I can get all three tones stack together or a BF and an AC. In the end, it's about the ease of the set up and getting close enough to make it fun to the player.

 

[ES330]

mojo fx mule

 

[CalebP]

Short answer is get a Wampler Black 65, or a Lovepedal Les Luis.

The only way to really get 'that' sound though, is to bring two amps.

 

[straightblues]

Get a Barber B-Cool Custom for the Black Face tones.

Get a Clark Gainster, V-Stack Tweedy, Lovepedal Les Luis, or a Greer Ghetto Stomp for the Tweed tones.

 

[sausagemahoney]

Those all sound like great ideas. Tomorrow I'm going to run my friend's tonelab with the tweed modeler through the Bassman and I'll report back with results.

 

[sausagemahoney]

I tried the Tonelab SE through the Bassman today with some good results. It's not quite like the stereo amps, but a decent approximation. I'm still anxious to try some other things. I've heard blonde amps being described as in between tweed and blackface. Would a Menatone Dirty Blonde be a good choice?