Tweed/Brownface-ish Amp with Reverb and Harmonic/Pitch-shifting Vibrato 15-25 watts

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  1. Gallery

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    Besides the Magnatone Twilighter does anything else fit these criteria?
    • Tweed or Brownface Voicing
    • Tube Driven Spring Reverb
    • Harmonic or Pitch Shifting Vibrato
    • 15 - 25 watts
     
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    Tube driven reverb?
    Harmonic or pitch shifting vibrato?
     
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    Yes. Tube vibrato too.
     
  7. Gallery

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    Interesting... didn't think all that fit in those little boxes stuffed in the back of the amp.
     
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    Yeah, he puts little outboard boxes in like this.

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    Juke Coda might fit the bill although I don't know how tweedy it can get.
     
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    Thanks! Very cool. I can't help feeling like the controls should on the control panel at the price he charges (looks a bit sloppy implemented this way), but at the same time I would still love to try one of these. I've come close to pulling the trigger a few times. The demos sound amazing.

     
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    There is an exrernal goot controller for the reverb depth and trem speed.
     
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    IIRC, the Lazy J offers tube tremolo... it is not Fender's very complicated, 3-tube "Harmonic Vibrato" tremolo they only used for a few years on the larger Brown Fenders.

    The Silver Sonic (and its bigger brother, the Golden Melody) take 90% of their circuit/layout from the Brown Fender Concert/Super/Pro (including the Harmonic Vibrato), substituting in a simpler 5F6a-style tone stack and adding a Blackface combo reverb circuit.
     
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    Is it the same vibrato and reverb (circuit/tube config) as is in the Reverberato?
     
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    Yes, the Reverberato, Silver Sonic and Golden Melody all use the "Harmonic Vibrato", which isn't a true pitch-shifting vibrato like the Magnatone, but its very lush and even more layered. Think tremolo and phase-shifter mixed.

    And they both use the Fender combo-style (12AT7-driven) reverb circuit, not the one from the outboard (6K6-driven) 6G15 reverb unit.
     
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    Yes, but the Victoria Reverberato is not the harmonic vibrato that is in the brownface amps. Fewer tubes in the victoria. I was wondering if the harmonic vibrato in the Victoria Silver Sonic has the same circuit/number of tubes as is in the brownface amps.

    I own a Reverberato and LOVE it. But the vibrato is not exactly like the harmonic vibrato in my brownface amps. Still, it's the best piece of gear that I've bought in the last year.
     
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    To complicate matters... there are actually two Harmonic Vibrato circuits, that's one of the differences between the original and -A revision circuits of the large Brown amps. The earlier one uses 2 tubes...the later one uses 2-1/2 tubes.
     
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    I own a Magnatone Stereo Twilighter and it has that hypnotic pitch shifting vibrato in spades. It can do a very tweedy sounding breakup but its way too loud for the house without attenuation. Pretty ideal gig volumes though according to my gigging friends.
     
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    Got it. Thanks. Apparently, the Reverberato and the Victoria vibrato/reverb circuits use the 5 tube vibrato/reverb which, while an excellent sounding vibrato, is not as cool as the vibrato on the larger brownface amps with the 2 1/2 tube vibrato.
     
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    FWIW I sold my LJ20 after playing the Magnatone. The tremolo in the LJ is good but the Maggie is in a different league altogether.
     
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