Tweed Super --- "It sounds like a ..." Or it has its own thing going on--Which is it?

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  1. KissTone

    KissTone Supporting Member

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    I've never played a tweed Super (5F4?), don't really know of any famous recordings where people say, "Now that's the sound of a Super!" and the YouTube demos out there are, well, YouTube demoes that don't tell me too much.

    So, for those in the know, how do you describe the tone of a Super? Is it its own animal which must be played to be understood, or would you say it sounds a lot like a [insert amp model here]?
     
  2. big mike

    big mike Moderator - EL34 Emeritas Staff Member

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    Very similiar to a bandmaster..

    (Search tweed super and you'll get lots fo youtube hits with current and former users).

    Cranked up...it gets almost marshally.

    THink Montrose on the Rock Candy.
     
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    This is a favorite of mine for videos


     
  4. Echoplexi

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    A tweed super I played had the absolute most sustain I've ever gotten. With a tele with regular single coils and the amp set clean as a whistle bends and single notes held and bloomed forever. It was ridiculous. This was a wide panel version btw
     
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    My kid has a Victoria 35210 shown back-right.....
    It has the perfect balance of Tone, Volume and Raunch.....
    It holds together much tighter than a Deluxe, and a 2x10 Combo in a Pine Box is VERY easy to haul around.
    Whether he's playing Stones or Country.....with a Les Paul or Strat....
    Seems to be the PERFECT Amplifier that covers a lot of ground sounding great the entire time.
    I see why Mark Baier (owner of Victoria) says this is his favorite amp....

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    It's too bad Jim only spent about a minute discussing the Super - I would have loved to hear more! Didn't realize the early Teles were meant to be the Super's mate.
     
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    I really like the tweed super (I've had a Vicky 35210 and a Clark Penrose). Not too loud and can stay pretty clean if needed. Still has that nice tweed thing going on when cranked. I also love the fact that you have three EQ controls to shape tone (plus the bright and normal channel blending). Very portable to boot.
     
  8. KissTone

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    Maybe I need to check out one. I'm getting in one of those dangerous moods where I'm looking at my 1974x and SFDR and thinking, "Hmm . . . I wonder what else I should try?" ;)
     
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    IIRC The Super's pre-amp and tone stack are very similar to the Bandmaster's- more "evolved" than a Deluxe, Champ, Vibrolux, or Pro, but not quite as evolved as the Bassman.
    Every time I've heard a tweed Super, it has been wonderful. If you've played a 410 Bassman Reissue, imagine that, only thicker, nastier, and richer at lower volume levels.
     
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    I lucked out and found this 57 Chassis disguised in a head shell when someone was clearing out his basement.I've restored it into a Larry Rodgers cab.
    My other tweeds are a champ,Deluxe and Bassman and the super is the most giggable of the bunch.
    Reasonable to carry not overly loud and tweed all the way .
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  11. KissTone

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    Oh, you guys aren't helping. Now you're just inducing GAS. ;)
     
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    I was lucky enough to find a 55' Super with 6V6 power tubes (5E4). It was all-original right down to the tubes!

    Sounds really, really good. My tech got weak in the knees after he saw/played it!

    The notes bloom/sustain like no other... definitely has its own thing going on!
     
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    Can you swap other power tubes in these, by the way? 5881 - 6L6 - or even 6V6?
     
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    The only real mistake I've made in life the last couple years was trading mine away. The amp was remarkably touch-responsive. This is just a guitar, cord, Strymon Flint, and the amp:

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    I'm pretty sure it's very similar in sound to the Pro.
     
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    You can certainly swap 5881s and 6L6s in some of the newer tweeds that have biasing capabilities. I have the Victoria 35210, and I don't believe that 6V6s can be used in that amp, but I could be mistaken.

    The Super and many of their knockoffs are pretty cool amps if you've never played one.
     
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