Tweed Twin Kits in Piecemeal ?

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  1. yZe

    yZe Senior Member

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    Is 5A80 the high powered tweed Twin?

    This is what i want to do:

    Buy just the electronics only w/o the chassis and cab
     
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    Why are you asking this on this board? The Weber guys should know the answer to this question. Personally, I would just buy the components myself from various sources rather than buy a kit.
     
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    The reason for my last comment is that I assume you are talking about a Weber kit. The 5F8-A is the tweed high powered Twin. The Weber 5A80 is some other amp. Go to the Fender Amp Field Guide and you will see the Fender schematic and layout and specs. It is about 80 watts.
     
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    Because I am not sure what that 5-8 thingy was.
    I thought that was a fender model number for the Tweed Twin.

    I am looking for the electronics and chassis in order to make the Weed Twin into a head sans cabinet

    I'd like to install the London Power Scaling in it and a line out for the mixer

    The heart of my request does not center aound Weber, but around who can sell the kit for a High Powered Tweed Twin (electronics and chassis only)
     
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    I bet Weber could do that for you.
     
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    Weber will sell you a kit minus the cabinet. BTW the 5A80 in more of a blackface circuit in a tweed chassis. You may want the 5E8A (low power) or the 5F8A (high power) tweed twins.
     
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    I'm thinking about the exact same thing you are. I'd like to put a low-powered tweed twin in a custom head cabinet made by me. They said they could do that no problem for under $1000.

    Come to think of it, i'd love to put londor power scaling in it too.
     
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    Tweed Twin in a head cab would be cool!
     
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    I saw that
    sdgvintage

    offers Options:
    Jensen Paper in oil caps ($100)
    Mallory 150's (no charge)
    SOZO Caps (no charge)
    International 220v,230v,240v power options (no charge)
    Clarostat/Allen Bradley Pots (add $50)


    I believe Carl H posted a while ago a suggestion to use Mercury Magnetics transformers, AB resistors, CDE poly film foil capacitors, switchcraft jacks

    So, does weber and other "kit" sellers offer these parts or do you have to buy the kit and then sub out certain parts with the alternative parts mentioned above?
     
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    bump per last post
     
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    That's why I don't buy kits. They don't always have ALL the quality parts that I want. I would get a parts list (or make one off a Fender layout) and buy the parts from a few different vendors. There is no magic in getting a kit.

    I would get the chassis and boards from Weber and the transformers from Mercury Magnetics or a vendor that sells MM transformers.

    You can get about 90% of the small parts from Antique Electronics online at very good prices.

    If you use new resistors, I would get Ohmite carbon comp in the same watt (1/2 watt and 1 watt where originally used). NOS Allen Bradley can be found on the net (try Clark parts, Mojo, and others). The Ohmite can be bought at Newark online, and so can the Cornell Dublier poly foil caps (or you can use Sozo).

    In short, it is not that hard to get the parts and you will get better parts by buying them from different vendors instead of a kit.

    I am in the early process of building a Marshall Bluesbreaker clone. I just ordered the one-off chassis from Ceriatone, so I am about to start the process again myself.

    Here is a link to pictures of the tweed Bandmaster that I built:

    http://new.photos.yahoo.com/harrisc63/album/576460762310298470#page1

    Good luck!
     
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    By the way, I would use Alpha pots. They are cheap and they have a good feel to them and they are solid metal shaft (not plastic). There is no need to use the expensive pots IMO.
     
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    I would also use phenolic type tube sockets over ceramic types (tube sockets are very important). Belton makes some nice ones. Be very careful when you solder wires on the tube sockets to not let the solder go down inside the tube socket (your tube won't go in, etc.). I tip the chassis up on its side when soldering there.
     
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    Okay, now I heard (second hand FWIW) that Victor at Mojave claims that not all of the pins are active on tubes amps and that he wires his amps so that all the pins fire.

    Is that premise feasible for a Tweed Twin?

    Also, can we devise a parts list from this:
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    I would use the layout to make the parts list and I would wire it exactly as shown on the layout. What Victor says makes zero sense to me. Ignore it.
     
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    This linksays the following:
     
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    The thing is is that I am electronically incompetent, so i don't know how to translate the diagrams into the needed parts list

    I was hoping to get a tech to assemble the stuff to my specs, after I get the parts
    I may have to call around and see what I can scrounge up
     

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