Two Bucker Teles - Ash or Alder?

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  1. 62Tele

    62Tele Supporting Member

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    Just curious if anyone has an opinion on woods for a dual bucker Tele? Any favorites?
     
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    I'm thinking of the same project and I'm going for alder. No guarantees though as there is much variance even within wood type.
     
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    Alder tends to be lighter weight. Keyword is 'tends'. But Ash looks better IMO with a clear, semi or trans finish. If I were building this and was going with a solid finish, Alder or maybe even Basswood would be my pick.

    As for tone, IMHO no difference. Threads like these usually get a tonewood debates started that never ends well. :thud
     
  4. 62Tele

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    Well, yeah, of course. Just tying to see what folks have experienced overall.
     
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    Guess I should have specified Swamp Ash. Alder tends to be a little heavier than most swamp ash (with many exceptions of course) where Northern Ash can be boat anchors. As a gross generalization, I tend to find alder a little smoother and maybe a little more predictable so to speak. Certainly not a better or worse thing by any means.
     
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    Alder will be heavier but more solid sounding. Ash can be open and airy but for humbuckers I would do alder.
     
  7. Drak

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    Probably not what you're looking for, but if you're doing dual buckers,
    I'd go with a Maple over Mahogany type of body.
    Or all Mahogany.
    One of my favorite wood combos is Walnut over Mahogany and looks great on a Tele.
     
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    Mahogany for sure, never tried a dual humbucker tele style with alder or ash though.

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    Mine are both G&L ASAT Deluxes with maple top and saddle lock bridge. Neither sound anything like a tele or a Les Paul.

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    I currently have a maple neck on a cypress body in the works...most likely chambered.
     
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    +1.
     
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    Since yer going dual buckers, a mahogany chambered/non-chambered body with your choice of top alder ash maple...
     
  14. 62Tele

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    Funny, I love mahogany acoustics, just haven't bonded with most mahogany teles. I just built a Warmoth Mooncaster with solid (ie one of the first ten they made - laminate now) maple over a chambered mahogany body and low wind Imperials. Sounds good enough for my daughter to confiscate ;). Just wasn't considering this wood combo again in a Tele body.
     
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    Dang! Beat me to it!

    Depends on the 'buckers, really.

    Those old Schecters Pete Townshend played were mahogany. He had a couple built that are poplar which has mahogany similarities but is a bit lighter.
    I built a single p/u La Cab with a TV Jones Power'tron from poplar and it flippin' ROARS.
     
  16. 62Tele

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    I built a Korina Tele many years ago - great sounding guitar, but it sure was soft wood when it got down around four pounds. Beautiful though.
     
  17. GuitarsFromMars

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    You guys are way too traditional.

    I agree with most of the choices being good ones.

    Has anyone figured out the remaining quantities of the Ash/Alder/'Hog/Limba/Maple that are available, are heavy and in limited supply(sustainable) for aged/dried instrument wood?

    Most of the older 'tone' woods used in the 50s, are being replaced with other wood use (basswood, blackwood, bubinga, cocobolo, sapele, etc).

    I am noticing this more with PacRim instruments, than USA built stuff.

    That's why I figured a build of old growth cypress might be worth a try...?
     
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    Tad more clarity....ash. Smidge warmer...alder. I prefer ash on HH builds. Also depends on the pickups, neck wood, board wood, planned electronics, bridge material, string type and gauge, amp, amp settings, pedal/no pedal, type of pick....did I miss anything. Ash is lighter, looks better with trans finishes. Alder is easier to finish.
     
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    Thanks Chris, pretty much what I was thinking. I have a lightweight swamp ash body I finished with Inca Silver nitro. Maple/rosewood, Klusons, probably a stainless bridge to cover the route.

    Conversely, I have a slightly heavier double bound alder body, but I think this one wil get a mini bucker I the neck and keep a Tele bridge pup. I afraid it might get a little too mellow with a bridge bucker.

    I haven't been a big bucker user over the years so I thought I'd see what folks have heard with their builds. Greatly appreciate your input.
     
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