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ultimate delay shootout! superdelay, timefactor, or echolution??

marvelboy_04

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so, im wanting a great sound quality very versatile delay and these all seem to fit the bill, but what are the pros and cons of each?
 

lifeinsong

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Buy a TimeFactor and you'll never have to buy another delay pedal...it's that good! Eventide is constantly looking for ways to upgrade the sounds and functionality of their stompboxes and those upgrades are available to you thru computer download. It also has full MIDI capabilities, a built in looper/recorder, and the newest software update allows you to have 100 presets.
 
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Is for the new Red Witch Titan...3 individual delays w an effects loop to add your own modulations. Comes out soon this month!

Cheers,
Rig
 

R_S_G_7

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if you need midi and 100 presets and like digital interfaces the timefactor is great. if you prefer a more "analog" interface check the SD or echo...

i've had the timefactor and have a superdelay now both are amazing at what they do. and all the demos of the echolution sound great. play them you will know.
 

nrvana8775

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Have you considered the Damage Control timeline?

I couldn't get over the hi-fi aspect of the superdelay, although it was really fun. The Timeline sounds beautiful, and has a good variety of delays. It can't do backwards octaves or anything like that though.
 

marvelboy_04

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i dont know which to get. they all seem so great in different ways! i should be getting my modfactor in the mail tomorrow and maybe if i like that enough itll make me get the timefactor, but then the other 2 look great for analog stuff
 

Nork

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Go out and play'em with your rig. I did that with the sd and tf. Tf won. But only by a hair.
 

marvelboy_04

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see, i can only maybe find a superdelay, and a friend of mine has the timefactor, but i really wanna try the echolution but idk
 

gururyan

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I think something many overlook is the fact you have to commit to learning some of these very complex delays. Often times what comes with extreme versatility is an extreme learning curve. Many of the delays I have sold/traded were due to the steep learning curve, complex settings, and time it took dial in or save settings vs. the tones they could or could not create. They became time wasters and required way too much of my limited "creative" time. Most of my favorite delays have been very simple ones like the old Maxon AD-900 and the Skreddy Echo. I currently have an Empress SuperDelay on the board and it pushes the threshold of what I consider too complicated. I plan on sticking with this one however, because although it takes some learning, I feel that it balances well with what it offers. If there was one more knob or one more toggle, it would be the straw that broke the camel's back. So, keep that in mind when shopping for a delay. Some people have a natural talent for understanding and remembering complex sub-menus and what-not, others just want to play the damned thing.
 

richpjr

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I think something many overlook is the fact you have to commit to learning some of these very complex delays. Often times what comes with extreme versatility is an extreme learning curve. Many of the delays I have sold/traded were due to the steep learning curve, complex settings, and time it took dial in or save settings vs. the tones they could or could not create. They became time wasters and required way too much of my limited "creative" time. Most of my favorite delays have been very simple ones like the old Maxon AD-900 and the Skreddy Echo. I currently have an Empress SuperDelay on the board and it pushes the threshold of what I consider too complicated. I plan on sticking with this one however, because although it takes some learning, I feel that it balances well with what it offers. If there was one more knob or one more toggle, it would be the straw that broke the camel's back. So, keep that in mind when shopping for a delay. Some people have a natural talent for understanding and remembering complex sub-menus and what-not, others just want to play the damned thing.
That really is such a good point. It is so easy to get sucked into the endless tweaking instead of playing music. I find myself getting caught up in that way too much and have been consciously downsizing my board to concentrate on playing.
 

marvelboy_04

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well, i got my modfactor today, and its kinda making me wanna steer clear of the timefactor cause i want versatility, but i also just wanna be able to frikkin play! so i guess its between superdelay and echolution. which is better at making crazy sounds?
 

Nork

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i tried a timefactor, and it was really only one thing that made me buy that over the superdelay - unlimited time options in any mode. i couldn't get dotted eights in any but one mode...and i really wanted to use it in different modes - and the prices are the same here in Canada. so the TF won.

i agree TOTALLY with gururyan - HUGE learning curve, and i'm not a delay natural. but it took me no time to dial in my settings on either the TF or the SD.

but the superdelay could make some really freaky sounds. it really is a pedal that pushes your creativity. seriously. GREAT pedal.
 

peridot1

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One thing about the Timeline is the interface is not complicated. There's enough knobs but pretty self explanatory. I found it a snap to use. The Nova Delay was complicated to me.

Kinda like the Cathedral. Several knobs but once you know what they do you never need to read the manual again. No LED digital readouts or anything.
 






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