Upgrading Electronics in Gretsch Sparkle Jet help

treeuh

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Hey all- I was hoping to get some help with possibly rewiring my Sparkle Jet. In particular, the master volume, but as with anything it's probably not as simple as swapping out a pot...

Basically, I've noticed that the volume taper on the master volume (that I use all of the time) has 1) introduced him as soon as it's below wide open and 2) even when it was working properly would significantly cut highs when it wasn't run wide open... The taper wasn't bad, but all my high end was gone..

I know there are other rocking the duo jet and maybe sparkle jet, so what say you of changing the guts a bit?
 

Waxhead

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Hey all- I was hoping to get some help with possibly rewiring my Sparkle Jet. In particular, the master volume, but as with anything it's probably not as simple as swapping out a pot...

Basically, I've noticed that the volume taper on the master volume (that I use all of the time) has 1) introduced him as soon as it's below wide open and 2) even when it was working properly would significantly cut highs when it wasn't run wide open... The taper wasn't bad, but all my high end was gone..

I know there are other rocking the duo jet and maybe sparkle jet, so what say you of changing the guts a bit?
sounds like you're talking about treble bleed.
My 2003 Jet 6131 with TV Jones Classic PUPs doesn't have it.
Didn't have it when I had Gretsch HS filtertrons in it either.

What's the model and PUP details on yours.
And have you tried adjusting the PUPs?
 

treeuh

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It's a 2011 Gretsch 6129TL with the stock Filtertrons... would swapping out the volume pot or cap here or there help? Any guidance would be appreciated! Thanks!
 

Axis29

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sounds like you're talking about treble bleed. My 2003 Jet 6131 with TV Jones Classic PUPs doesn't have it. Didn't have it when I had Gretsch HS filtertrons in it either. What's the model and PUP details on yours. And have you tried adjusting the PUPs?
Yes, Waxhead is correct. A treble bleed was required for my 6129TLS. Some folks like it dark... But, it got too dark, too fast for my tastes. I tried it with both resistor and cap, but I cut the resistor back out because it changed the taper.
 

moosewayne

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It is well worth the $$$ to get the wiring kit from TV Jones.
If you're handy with guitar electronics, it'll take you an hour, if not less.
If not, it's an easy fix for your tech.
I outfitted my pre-Fender red Sparkle Jet with the wiring and pups (you don't need TV Jones pups-you can just get the wiring kit.)
Big improvement
 

TheoDog

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I have a basic Pro Jet. I have been curious about tweaking the controls a bit. I find treble bleed kits to sound a little fizzy compared to the 50's style wiring that is pretty easy on a simple Tele or LP/SG/335 setup.
I also think it is not necessary to pay a markup for a "wiring kit" when I have skills to wire myself.
I am hoping this thread will get legs with ideas for cap values and schemes.
 




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