Using Interesting Quotes...

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  1. StevenA

    StevenA Member

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    I find it amusing as well as rewarding using quotes in various places. I have found most of Carlton’s KC solo can go just about anywhere. The most daring I have integrated has been to play Whipping Post over a Latin Bossa.
     
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    I love doing this. I have a couple clips my wife recorded of me (noodling) where I take quotes and play a whole chorus of blues with them. I’ll try to post them later.

    It’s a fun exercise that’s a great blend of ear training, creativity, and theory.
     
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    I use this one too much:


     
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    I wish the audio was a bit better on this but I quoted the Woody Wood Pecker theme in this Dixieland style solo...

     
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    I’ve played at implementing this as a challenge for a jazz brunch I do (well, preCOVID). Since we tend to do many of the same songs in much the same way, the idea to keep it fresh would be to name a film at the start of the gig and then challenge everyone (just a duo + percussion in my case) try to work in quotes from it throughout the gig. E.g. The Wizard of Oz, the Sound of Music, West Side Story, etc. Sort of did it on one gig but didn’t stick with it enough to really work well. But if we ever start up again I’m going to get on it hard, cause it’d be a blast.
     
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    It can sound tacky if not done right... I love how JJ Johnson was quoting from "Peter and the Wolf" on a live clip I saw with Sonny Stitt, later he quoted some Dvorak... Cannonball was good at it. I have heard some players do it and its cringeworthy...
     
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    I’ll play the theme from “Doogie Howser” over just about anything.
     
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  8. guitarjazz

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    I was in a band where quoting was banned. (Side note:years later the trumpet player toured with the Stones many times)
     
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    Well, I only got 1 file to (half) work. Lets play name that tune 90's tv edition.

    Bonus points for the standard.


     
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    Cannonball was good at everything.
     
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    I am sure the Stones didn't allow him to quote either.
    In my book a quote can work if it happens in the moment, you might suddenly hear a melody and then you play it. Sometimes the melody might be from a known tune....If it is a pre planned, insert quote thing, it might now work as well.
     
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    Totally agree... it’s almost like the best ones happen by accident. Or leaves the audience wondering if it was an accident or intentional... and a lot of times it’s a bit of both, usually the best quotes happen when the quote could simply be a perfect line for the music on its own regardless of it was a quote or not... that fact that it was a quote is just a bonus.
     
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    Definitely agree that it can be done well or tacky. I like when it’s done intentionally as a tip of the hat to one of the greats especially if the allusion adds a nugget of meaning to the song. An example that comes to mind is John Frusciante opening the solo to Dani California with a 4-note quote from Purple Haze. It’s tasteful and you might not catch it if you’re not a guitar nerd, but it opens the album with an announcement of the kinds of influences and direction he was taking in his lead playing vs his previous 2 albums with them. I like stuff like that
     
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    I like'em when cleverly done.

    I'm not sure where the line is between clever and forced. Shoehorning quotes into a tune or stringing them together for a solo seems odd on the surface, kinda like a faux improvisational medley.
     
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    What is the difference between a quote and a riff? SRV spent most of his career quoting Albert King.
     
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    A wonderful upright bass player friend seems to let ‘If I Only Had A Brain’ slip out. I’ve heard him do it for decades.
     
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    That’s how you know it’s him on recordings.
     
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    Signature licks versus melody lines of tunes, maybe?

    The licks SRV borrowed from the Three Kings sound different when placed in other tunes, though certainly recognizable. Melodies often hold their musical integrity (if that's the term I'm looking for) when inserted into other tunes.
     
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    Playing in bar bands doing cover tunes. One night after playing Old Time Rock And Roll a zillion times, I quoted Smoke On The Water over the 1 chord, Sunshine Of Your Love over the 4, Day Tripper over the 5, Cat Scrath Fever over the 1, Batman Theme over the 4, and The Twighligjt Zone Theme over the 5.
    Still doing it in my second round of solos.
    Interesting quotes ? Maybe not....
     
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