VHT Deliverance Advice

[lgehrig4]

After reading the raves and listening to all the clips, I've decided that I now need to have a Deliverance 60 Watt (thanks, you bastards )

Let me first tell you a little about myself. I suck and only play at home, but I enjoy owning and using good equipment. This time I'm going to do it the right way and sell off 2 amps before I make any purchases.

In addition to the Pittbull (which I've decided to sell for this), what other amp should I sell? I want to avoid having 2 amps that are similar enough to keep me from using one.

VHT Pittbull 50 ST (this one would already be going)
Budda Superdrive 30
Bogner Shiva
Marshall JMP MKII (1979)
Dr Z Maz Sr 2X12 Combo
Rockytop 18 Watt Combo

Thanks
Jeff

 

[Greazygeo]

The 50ST sounds alot different than the D60. I think the 50ST is a killer amp....

The Shiva and Marshall gets my vote to go....

 

[lgehrig4]

Originally posted by Greazygeo
The 50ST sounds alot different than the D60. I think the 50ST is a killer amp....

The Shiva and Marshall gets my vote to go....

Interesting. I was leaning towards the Marshall myself, but didn't think the Shiva would be considered b/c of the clean channel and reverb.

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by lgehrig4
Interesting. I was leaning towards the Marshall myself, but didn't think the Shiva would be considered b/c of the clean channel and reverb.

I like Marshall's when they are modded pretty heavily, but stock they don't do it for me.

I also don't like Bogner's voicing (I had an Uber and 101A and have heard the Shiva plenty), they just sound very blah / bland to me. Alot of guys like them, I'm not one of them though. I really dug the 50ST's clean channel and it still has reverb along with a very nice classic/ hard rock distortion.

Ultimately it's whatever you like that you'll keep. I was just mentioning that if you think the D60 and 50ST sound similar they really don't....

 

[hw2nw]

Get an EL-34 Shiva. So organic, very Marshally but with this wide, creamy, singing tone. Plus, the footswitch with the reverb and the boost is very useful for that extra push on leads.

Try a Shiva with a 2x12 or 4x12 and you'll see what I mean.



good luck!

 

[Scott Peterson]

Well, I just sold my Pittbull 50/ST, have owned 3 Shiva's and have a Deliverance 60 on the way; FedEx Ground says Monday, November 28.

Full report will commence and hopefully help you out when it does. If you can wait that long.... (though they are *very* hard to find right now).

 

[lgehrig4]

Originally posted by hw2nw
Get an EL-34 Shiva. So organic, very Marshally but with this wide, creamy, singing tone. Plus, the footswitch with the reverb and the boost is very useful for that extra push on leads.

Try a Shiva with a 2x12 or 4x12 and you'll see what I mean.



good luck!

I think you misread the post. I already have the amps mentioned and I'm trying to figure out which two to sell before I buy the Deliverance....I agree with what you are saying about the Shiva.

 

[lgehrig4]

Originally posted by Scott Peterson
Well, I just sold my Pittbull 50/ST, have owned 3 Shiva's and have a Deliverance 60 on the way; FedEx Ground says Monday, November 28.

Full report will commence and hopefully help you out when it does. If you can wait that long.... (though they are *very* hard to find right now).

Scott, I am eagerly awaiting your review. If you could also do a quick comparison to the 50ST I'd appreciate it.

 

[SteveVHT]

Dump either the Shiva or Marshall....
The Deliverance will cover their ground and better IMHO. You will be able to dial in those tones only with more articulation, warmth, tone, and clarity.
I love my D120H. There are so many tones to be had with such a simple design it's scary.
Steve

 

[lgehrig4]

Originally posted by Greazygeo
Ultimately it's whatever you like that you'll keep.

I actually like them all. If money wasn't the issue, I'd keep them and add the Deliverance to the collection.

What makes this decision difficult for me is that I really have no practical use for any of these. I play at home and I don't have the chops to put any of these amps to the test. If I was a gigging musician with a certain sound to achieve, the decision would be much easier.

 

[Member 5343]

Honestly, I'd keep your Pitbull 50 ST and sell the Budda Superdrive 30 and the Marshall JMP.

From what I've heard the Deliverence 60 and the Pitbull 50 ST sound VERY different from each other and having them both hooked to an a/b/y box would be just tits man! Unless you're unhappy with your Pitbull then I'd sell it and the Marshall. Just my opinion and all that jazz though.

-TJK

 

[lgehrig4]

I think I'm more confused now than ever......might have to suck it up, risk divorce and just buy a Deliverance outright

Anyone know what the current best price is for a 60watter? I remember seeing something like $1,300-1,400 from Musician's Friend.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Originally posted by Scott Peterson
Well, I just sold my Pittbull 50/ST, have owned 3 Shiva's and have a Deliverance 60 on the way; FedEx Ground says Monday, November 28.

Full report will commence and hopefully help you out when it does. If you can wait that long.... (though they are *very* hard to find right now).

I found one in my living room

It's sitting next to my new (to me) Hayseed 30 and I think I may have found the answer wit hthese two...

I agree Scott and so will you - having owned a Shiva, 101b and a stoopid amount of other booteeks, the Deliverance is doing it's own thing and doing it quite well. You're going to love this amp.

Steve E

 

[hw2nw]

Originally posted by lgehrig4
I think you misread the post. I already have the amps mentioned and I'm trying to figure out which two to sell before I buy the Deliverance....I agree with what you are saying about the Shiva.

whoops, I'm a total idiot. Sorry bout that.

If you want to sell the amp(s) that would get in the way of playing your Deliverance, then I'd sell your JMP and the Superdrive 30. Your VHT will be able to cover those...and then some.

 

[Blueser]

Can anyone comment on the effectiveness of the Deliverence's master volume, or do you need to get it cranking for it to really sound good?

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Originally posted by Blueser
Can anyone comment on the effectiveness of the Deliverence's master volume, or do you need to get it cranking for it to really sound good?

The master works great - you can do the late night playing with the baby in the next room thing no problem, and do it with a mean albiet "little" tone. When you start to open it up though around 9 - 10:00 on the master is where the fun starts. The interaction of the "less / more" switches and the gain structure make it super versatile.

Steve E

 

[Blueser]

Any ideas as to who has them, and what the price of a 60 would be? Also, what is the build quality like?

Thanks,
B

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by lgehrig4
I think I'm more confused now than ever......might have to suck it up, risk divorce and just buy a Deliverance outright

Anyone know what the current best price is for a 60watter? I remember seeing something like $1,300-1,400 from Musician's Friend.

I guess it boild down to how much you like the 50ST and how bad the GAS pains are...

all VHT's have a certain quality to them that makes them a VHT....

If you do decide to get one and can't locate one, we have one in stock....

George

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by Blueser
Can anyone comment on the effectiveness of the Deliverence's master volume, or do you need to get it cranking for it to really sound good?

it works great...With the two gain controls, MV and Less/ More switch there are alot of tones to be had....

George

 

[Randy]

Originally posted by Greazygeo
it works great...With the two gain controls, MV and Less/ More switch there are alot of tones to be had....

George

George, aside from the obvious volume and headroom differences, is there a big tonal difference between the 60 and 120 watters?