Victoria 50212 vs. Victoria 45410

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Jim Fairbairn, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. Jim Fairbairn

    Jim Fairbairn Member

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    I use humbucker guitars exclusively with Seth Lover pickups or pickups of similar output. I'm considering one of the two mentioned amplifiers. What are the pro's and con's of each when used with humbucker equipped guitars?
     
  2. es137p

    es137p Supporting Member

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    both great, and LOUD amps. The 50212 will have a nice tight bottom end.
    I'd call Mark at Victoria for that one.
     
  3. Muzzy

    Muzzy Supporting Member

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    Both of those amps would be great with humbuckers. I really can't think of any cons other than weight. I would prefer the bassman for myself. I like 10's.
     
  4. sideman

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    Well, I'll give this a try, even tho my 50212 experience is limited to a few gigs with a band mate's mid-50's "lo-power" tweed Twin (what the 50212 is based on). I used a 45410 for several years. To my ear, the added power -- 50 watts -- through the larger speakers -- two 12"s -- made a significant tone difference. The 50212/lo-power Twin, at typical club gig volumes, sounds cleaner and thicker than the 45410. The low notes and low chords are cleaner and stronger. On the other hand, the 50212/lo-power did not offer the compression, overdrive, and cut on leads that the 45410 brings. I liked them both, but preferred the 45410 (largely for the lead tones). Now, if you're using humbuckers, then you've got a thick, middy tone coming out of the gate. So you're going to sound that way with the 45410. One way to approach this is to ask yourself how much clean and thick you want. The 45410, with AlNiCo 10"s and a bit less power, will compresss/overdrive earlier, and give you nice grind and sustain on leads at typical stage volumes. The 50212 will remain clean a little longer, and will be stronger/cleaner with lows and mids.
     

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