Victoria Bassman 45410 vs Fender Bassman LTD

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  1. Pa'ani

    Pa'ani Supporting Member

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    Hey guys, I have a opportunity and cool deal to trade a Fender Bassman LTD plus a little cash for a Victoria Bassman 45410.
    What's your take on the Victoria 45410?
    Is it that much better than the Fender Bassman LTD?
    I would greatly appreciate your feedback and opinions!
     
  2. Guinness Lad

    Guinness Lad Silver Supporting Member

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    Had both, the Victoria is even more oraganic and breaks up in a sweeter way. The Fender is louder and cheaper. Both are good, but money aside the Victoria is where it's at.
     
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    I was in the market for that type of amp at one point and I played the Vicky, then went over to GC to play the Fender.

    If you've got the extra cash to spend, and the fact that you're even asking suggests you're WILLING to spend it, the Victoria is noticably better, especially when pushed. The Fender gets a bit ratty at the edge compared to the vicky which holds together better.

    I attribute that to better quality trannys, but that's just my guess.
     
  4. Pa'ani

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    Thanks guys for the great info and advice!
     
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    frankencat Guitarded Gold Supporting Member

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    I would add that if you are in the market for a Deluxe/Bassman style amp definitely check out the Tungsten amps. They are incredible sounding and very reasonably priced. :AOK

    http://www.tungstenamp.com/home.htm
     
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    The Fender Bassman LTD sounds great and IMO its one of the better Fedner RI's.
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    The Vicky 45410 just sounds more like an old amp. Its warmer, sweeter, and breaks better. Then again, there is a huge price difference when considering new but used you can get a great deal on a used 45410.

    With that said, I actually have one for sale in the emporium...;)
     
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    I played both back to back at Dave's Guitar in LaCrosse. I really dug the Fender and could have been happy with it until I crossed the room and tried the Victoria to listen for a difference.
    I would have spent roughly twice as much on the Victoria, it had all the fairy dust magic I would have expected in an original.
     
  8. kidmandude

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    Its night & day..​

    I have played and owned both.

    The Vicky is made by hand point to point and is made with the top shelf stuff, the Bass LTD is not.

    I still play a Bassman 4x10 but its not made by ether of the 2 above.

    :cool:
     
  9. Nolatone Ampworks

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    I would say that there are probably a number of excellent builders offering a Bassman clone for less than Victoria, and though I've not played many of them, there's no reason to believe they aren't excellent given the circuits are well know as are the layouts. Tungsten uses Mercury Magnetics trannys, and I'm a big fan of MM.

    The difference with Victoria is that he lucked out and got the tranny specs from the guy who used to build the trannys that went into those old amps. The guy just handed them over apparently. Why can't I get a break like that!!

    So, AFAIK, that's what gives Victoria a chance to be more accurate than others, but a damned fine sounding amp is a damned fine sounding amp. I personally don't NEED to have trannys of the identical spec of the originals.
     
  10. Griz

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    If you go Fender, try to get an early '90s model (leather handle, Eminence blue frame speakers).

    With a couple of cheap tweaks, it's an amazing amp. I had one.

    The cheap tweaks:
    5AR4/GZ34 tube rectifier
    12AY7 in V1

    To go farther:
    simple mod to accept EL34's with rebiasing; more sparkle at low volumes, earlier onset of grind (if that's what you want).
     
  11. Pa'ani

    Pa'ani Supporting Member

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    Very Cool advice and info! Greatly appreciated...
     
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    Not only does the Victoria sound sweeter when turned up, it will outlast the Bassman LTD, and is much, much easier to work on if it ever develops a problem.
     
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    I owned both...........The Vic was far more musical and 3D, sounded much better when pushed also as the Fender would get very harsh when pushed.........the Vic was sooooo much smoooother also!!
     
  15. Pa'ani

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    Thanks guys for all your help and wisdom...
    Well I did it! There was a used Victoria Bassman 45410 at my local G.C.and my buddy is the store manager, so long story short he hooked me up with a killer deal!
    Traded the Fender Bassman LTD and paid a small difference for the trade up...
    The Victoria 45410 is in excellent condition and sounds incredible!

    Thanks again!
     
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    That is well worth it, congratulations! I love my old Bassman reissue, but that trade is a "no-brainer" if you have the extra money.

    PS I bet that, deep down, you made your mind up before posting here! :dude
     
  17. Pa'ani

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    Hi Openbar,
    Thanks for the congratulations...
    Well as far as the "deep down, you made up your mind before posting here!".
    It was really up to my buddy to ok the deal, I had wishful thinking and I had a definite amount of how much I wanted to spend.
    I totally lucked out because, I scored an amazing Victoria Bassman 45410 while trading my Fender Bassman LTD a very happy ending indeed...

    Thanks again to you all for your help and response...
     

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