Vintage Klusons Everywhere!

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  1. hank57

    hank57 Silver Supporting Member

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    It amazes and saddens me to think that there really are so many old Fender and Gibson guitars being pilfered for their tuners!

    What a fricken crock this is. I look on ebay and there are dozens of "vintage Kluson" listings being offered, for up to $1500.

    A sucker is being born every minute I believe.

    Maybe some are really that vintage but the skeptic in me says it's a handful of the listings.
     
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    In the '70s, everyone, and I mean everyone, switched out the old tuners on their guitars for Grovers and Schallers - they were smoother, worked better and were just perceived as cooler.

    Smart techs would've kept the Klusons, and a lot had boxes and boxes of them.

    They were also used on cheap guitars back then - I found an old plywood beater at a garage sale that had a beautiful set of 3-on-a-side Klusons, for $5.

    eBay was very nice to me on that one... <g>
     
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    My guess is that most of them are absolutely legitimate. It's just not worth it to forge vintage kluson tuners, and they are readily available for a reasonable price (except for a few specific designs).
     
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    Truth,
    I did it back like all the other clowns...my 1960 Les Paul Special...Gold Grover's.
     
  6. Brazen

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    Bah, nothing works as good as The Steinberger Gearless tuners. :D

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  7. snarkle

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    Funny, I was just thinking of cleaning out the parts bin and putting the cash towards a Grantura.

    :)

    Does anyone need three-on-a-side Klusons?
     
  8. Dr. Tweedbucket

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    I think the vintage Fender ones say Kluson in the line on the back and the newer ones don't :red
     
  9. Peteyvee

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    I did it to my '68 gold top that had also been routed (crappily) for buckers...but just regular nickel Grover Rotomatics for me. Those were the **** back then...

    I think it depends. I know Klusons on vintage Gibsons could go either way...some had writing, some didn't.
     
  10. sixty2strat

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    Plus think how many had a part failure and they were replaced. So there are a lot of partial sets that were married up I'd guess
     
  11. XKnight

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    I would same some are legit, but not most. There just weren't that many made and most stayed on the guitars even though a lot were changed out. And many of the ones that got changed out were probably thrown away.

    There are some good reproductions out there and I wouldn't be surprised if some sellers just make the repros look aged. Not too difficult to do and hard to tell from a picture if it's real or fake. There are quite a few fake '59 LPs out there too.
     
  12. paranoid70

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    Ha, I just changed out the crummy stock Kluson tuners on my SG two nights ago.
     
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    And did you then make them looked aged and sell them as vintage tuners?
     
  14. Sweetfinger

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    A lot of the vintage 3 on a plank Klusons you see on Ebay were stripped from Kays. The guitar shop I used to work at had a coffee can full of Kluson strips they had saved after doing tuner replacements.
     
  15. paranoid70

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    No. I don't plan to sell them unless I sell the guitar. The locking Tuners I replaced them with are so much better.
     
  16. hank57

    hank57 Silver Supporting Member

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    Well, I guessing I am all about not believing anyone is honest on ebay selling vintage tuners. I was wrong before.
     
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    I have a 1959 Bronze Silvertone guitar...single lipstick PU...checking it out about a month ago and saw it had Kluson tuners.

    Found out that Danolectro used them until the mid sixties then started making their own cheaper ones.
     
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    Valco (National, Supro), and Mosrite, Magnatone, Oahu, among others, also used Klusons.
     
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    "Dad, why do all your old guitars have Schallers?"
    "I don't have a clue son."
     
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    do they sound better 'cos they've had a chance to dry out?
     

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