Vintage Vibrolux vs. Deluxe Reverb

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  1. henry_lee

    henry_lee Member

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    Hi all,

    I'm new in these parts... I was hoping some of you can
    help with regards to a vintage Fender amp.

    What I have: 70's Bassman w/ 2x12 Cab, 100w Master Volume.
    Everything set on "5" with the Master on about 3-4. I jump the channels
    and it sounds killer. Fairly loud rock band with great drummer.

    What I want: SMALLER, similar tone, a little breakup if pushed hard
    but mostly warm, Fender clean tone. I'd be using it in clubs, playing
    with a sort of country / acoustic based duo or trio - no drums.

    What I play: Gibson ES-135 with P-90's, Gibson ES-175 with P-90's.

    I've narrowed it down to either Blackface or early Silverface
    Vibrolux or Deluxe Reverb. I need reverb + vibrato in a small package.
    I'd wager the Vibrolux would be ideal. Is a the DR loud enough for
    small clubs? Or simply mic it if I had to? What about farting out
    with a gianormous hollowbody? 10-inch speakers ok? Or stick with
    a 12-inch speaker?

    Anyway, I was hoping to get some ideas from fellow hollow / P-90 players.
    Also, for reference... I would describe my ideal tone as Scotty Moore,
    Duane Eddy, T-Bone Walker and Link Wray all working on a
    David Lynch soundtrack.

    Thanks in advance!
    Henry Lee

    p.s. I wouldn't be running ANY efffects. Only a tuner between the guitar and the amp.
     
  2. Monroe

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    DR is way loud enough without a drummer. Mine is loud enough with most drummers. Have you thought about a Princeton Reverb?
     
  3. henry_lee

    henry_lee Member

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    awesome, thanks monroe! yeah, I had thought about Princeton Reverb...
    I was kinda gravitating toward the 2 x 10 though.

    so a Deluxe Reverb might keep up with a brush kit if I went down that road
    at some point? :)
     
  4. silencer eleven

    silencer eleven Member

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    Danocaster owns both a BF vibrolux and BF deluxe reverb you could PM him and ask him his thoughts on them.
     
  5. GuitarsFromMars

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    I have played with a trio that was considered loud by the club owner,with a '68 SFDR.I could have used a Princeton Reverb.
     
  6. doublee

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    I have both...and like them both and would be hard pressed to choose if I had to get rid of one. I have a tiny preference for the Vibro, 2 10's are really a nice tight spanky sound, but not all that diff from a well tuned up DR (just put in a Gold today, too early to tell but it aint bad I can say that for sure). Bottom line...couldnt choose.
     
  7. henry_lee

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    wow. cool, thanks guys. I totally appreciate the insight.
    I have to run in a bit here, but will check back this evening.

    btw, this is what I'd be plugging into it:

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  8. 66Park

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    I wouldn't worry about a DR not being loud enough. I never have had a problem being heard even with a pretty loud drummer. In fact, I seldom have gotten the volume past 4.
     
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  9. blackba

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    I would get a Princeton reverb or Deluxe reverb, I think the princeton reverb would be better if you don't want to use pedals to get some crunch....
     
  10. Dana Olsen

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    I agree, the DR's probably loud enough w/o a drummer, but ... the Viibrolux has way more headroom in all situations, IMHO. Also, IMHO, 2x10's in VR holds together better, especially in the low end than 1x12" in a DR.

    I mean, you can change the 12" in the DR to a stronger 12" with more headroom, but stock, the VR has more headroom and is louder than a DR, period, IMHO.

    Good luck, Dana O.

    PS I have BF Princeton Rev, a BFVR, and a BF Pro Rev, and I used to gig w/ a BF Deluxe sans 'verb.
     
  11. mad dog

    mad dog Silver Supporting Member

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    I've owned a BFDR and DRRI, played through several VRs. Kinda depends on your tonal preferences. The VR does it for me, mostly because of the 6L6 tone. The VR is louder, but that's not the main deciding point. With the right speaker, the DR gets loud too. It's more a question of headroom, and of how big the sound feels. The VR is better IMO in those ways.
     
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    The Deluxe without verb is a real sleeper - I love my '64 and it is the warmest of my BF collection ('64 DR, '65 VR, '65 PR, '65 VC) and it loves pedals!
     
  13. slider313

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    I have both;a '64 Vibrolux Reverb and a '65 Deluxe Reverb. The Deluxe has less headroom and has a sweeter break up. The Vibrolux is cleaner,has more seperation and with the right OD can be almost as sweet. If I had to choose,I would keep the Vibrolux.
     
  14. pula58

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    Vibrolux, definbitely. You can turn it down and it still sounds great (use pedals). And it has enough volume to be just perfect for almost any situation I have been to in the last year (lots o blues jams).
     
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    I have a 71 Vibrolux that I would be hard pressed to sell. And the Vibrolux would sound very good with your set up. However, it will have a different break up than you are used to. The Bassman is much tighter when pushed, and will also be thicker sounding. You should check own out before you make the plung.
     
  17. lannyhall

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    I have had many, many vintage Fenders. I used a Vibrolux Reverb as my main amp for several years. When I started thinning the herd, I did A/B comparison's between it and my '68 drip edge Deluxe Reverb sounded as good, so I sold the VR, as the DR was more portable.

    I also eventually moved to my blackface Princeton Reverb as my primary Fender. I had the Paul C mod and Stokes mod done, and also got a baffle made to accommodate a 12" speaker. It sounded so good with the 10" speaker that I ended up not using the 12" very often, and the 10" weighed a good bit less.

    All of that is to say you could just go directly to a well-tuned Princeton Reverb with those easily reversible mods and have a great solution.
     
  18. henry_lee

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    THANK YOU to everyone that has posted. Wow, I came to the right place!
    I feel like I'm right at home.

    So much to digest, let me parse through it all and I'll get back shortly.

    Again, thank you thank you for taking time to give some first hand
    experiences. Some great info here for sure!

    HL
     
  19. pedalcr8z

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    Absolutely stunning Gibson.........wow!:AOK
     
  20. henry_lee

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    Ha! Thanks. It's my dream ES-175. You should see it in person.
    Jaw dropping.

    Actually, your sig says it all.. after nearly 40 years I found
    my keeper too!

    Now I just need a matching amp! :)
     

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