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Walrus Audio Mayflower vs Timmy with LM1458 chip

Jeremy A

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Both pedals are open and transparent, but the stock Timmy is gritty while the Mayflower is smooth. By changing the chip in a Timmy to a LM1458 are these pedals pretty much identical?
 

crxshdxmmy

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The 1458 smoothes out the treble nicely so that it's less harsh/abrasive, but it's still gritty. Just more awesome.
 

Jeremy A

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Thanks! So either way it is worth getting the LM1458 chip for my Timmy.

Does anyone prefer the stock over the LM1458 with Vox amps?
 

Grant Ferstat

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Thanks! So either way it is worth getting the LM1458 chip for my Timmy.

Does anyone prefer the stock over the LM1458 with Vox amps?
Not me. I've been using Timmy or TIM pedals with an LM1458 through a Vox AC30 since 2005/6 and now a Magic Brit MK2 (AC15 style). I also find asymmetrical clipping gets me a little closer to the natural Vox cranked a little louder sound.

I've got some YouTube on my channel. It's not very high quality audio but there is a lot of Tele > Timmy with LM1458 > Vox.
 

crxshdxmmy

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I think LM1458 has been the way to go in almost every situation I've tried it with. Mesa, Dr. Z, Morgan, Vox, etc. Just a better match, IMHO.
 

cwcashiniv

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Another massively huge +1 for the LM1458 chip in a Timmy. I run it through a BFSR and Jackson Britain 3.0. Magical through both.
 
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Does the LM1458 chip increase the noise levels? Plus. I heard the 1458 can be radiophonic. I love how quiet the stock version is at the moment.
 

UrbanHymns

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I should probably try the LM1458 in my Timmy. I have the chip, but I've been using some other chip for a few months. I think the 4558, or something like that? In any case, it was smoother than the stock chip, which I think is a 4559?

I really don't know what I'm talking about, do I?
 

cwcashiniv

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Does the LM1458 chip increase the noise levels? Plus. I heard the 1458 can be radiophonic. I love how quiet the stock version is at the moment.
I've had the stock version and I now have the LM1458 version (surf green version). There is no noticeable difference in noise. I've always found the noise level to be small with Timmy's to begin with. But yeah, I don't see any increase in noise at all.

Disclaimer: I don't push the gain on my Timmy past 11 'o clock-ish. To me, it's sweetest as a low-gain/dirty booster.
 

MasterEvan07

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Timmy with LM1458...I put anything through it and it's better.
 
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I've had both side by side.They are are nothing alike.
The Timmy has much more powerful EQ controls and actually more gain.
I thought the Mayflower was boxy with no bite.
 

DrGonzo

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I really like the Timmy with the LM1458 chip. I've had several stock Timmy's in the past and I liked them, but there was always something a little 'off' with the Timmy and my rig (Fender guitars through blackface Fender amps). Then I got a Surf Green Timmy. I love it. It's not leaving my board.

I would suggest that those with a stock Timmy give the LM1458 chip a shot. If you don't prefer it, it's easy to go back. I've not tried the Mayflower, so I can't help you there.
 

papersun

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LM1418 didn't work in my Timmy. :( Got a TL072 in there instead. It's a bit noisier but a lot smoother.
 

amphead777

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I'm going against the Gear Page wave and saying I'm staying with the stock 4559. Sorry, don't hate me.:hide
Oh yeah I've tried the 1458. No big deal IMO:hide.
 

amdowell

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Both pedals are open and transparent, but the stock Timmy is gritty while the Mayflower is smooth. By changing the chip in a Timmy to a LM1458 are these pedals pretty much identical?
I'm going to say no on this. The Timmy becomes only a bit smoother and tames the highs. I haven't tried the Walrus Audio but I've noticed a lot of the other "Timmy but smoother" type ODs to add character whereas the Timmy doesn't add anything but "more."
 

telepunk

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I think the Timmy was still more gritty and open than the Mayflower after the chip swap.

I prefer the Mayflower, but it is smoother and does add some midrange and compression. I guess that's why I like it. The Timmy was too gritty for me.

I do not agree that it sounds "boxy" as a previous poster mentioned. This stuff is very rig dependent, but the Mayflower is by no means boxy in the midrange with my Vox AC15 and it has a very useful and flexible EQ.
 






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