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Wampler Black 65 vs. Love Pedal Super 6

charlieparks

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Hey guys I am considering a Wampler Black 65 or a Lovepedal super six to function as a always on base pedal, just wondering if anyone has had experience with both of them
I know the Wampler is more of a OD kind of pedal, but can it offer up the fender glassy clean with a bit of hair like the super six can?
I almost pulled the trigger after watching the Super 6 demo on the site. But then came across the Black 65 and now I am pondering yet again... Sigh. The Black 65 would be more versatile in the sense I could use it as an OD at times as well, but I primarily would be looking for a clean always on effect. Oh yeah its in a Dr Z Maz 38 if that has any bearing on this.
Thanks for your input!
 
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waygorked

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I haven't tried either of those, but I can say that I get exactly what you seem to be describing with my Xotic EP booster. Always on in front of my amp, provides what I think has been best described as "stank boost."
 

muddy

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the super 6 is the best ped sean makes; it'll give you supersession/bloomfield for DAYS! can't vouch for the wampie, haven't tried one...


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charlieparks

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the super 6 is the best ped sean makes; it'll give you supersession/bloomfield for DAYS! can't vouch for the wampie, haven't tried one...

I feel like I am leaning that way, can you get a good clean solo sound with it as well? It adds an amazing colour to the tone on the demo. Solid clean tone or "cleanish" is the most underrated "effect" or sound you can have IMO. Bloomfield has awesome tone.
 

groovemeister

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resurrecting this thread as I'm keen to know if anyone uses either of these pedals as a way of getting srv tones at small gig volumes..... after playing around with my el mo i've decided it's close but no cigar..... there is something weird in the eq of the el mo that only half nails stevie.. e.g. you hit the low e string open and the el mo is spot on but as you play on the higher strings it loses that stevie vibe and gets messy. so...haha.... this brings to these two pedals, the super six and black 65 which I'm wondering how well they do the cranked early stevie tones of vibraverbs and super reverbs???? my plan is to use a pedal like this as a foundation and then hit it with an 808 for solos
 

underdog726

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I am interested in this thread, since i think the El Mo is the best srv, super on 10 pedal Ive ever played, if there is something even better , as Ross Perot used to say "Im all ears"
 

Class5

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The Wampler Black '65 was excellent for my SRV tone, but then I discovered the Lumpy's Germanium OD, and I haven't looked back. I haven't tried the El Mo and now I'm curious.
 

ken374

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Bet the super 6 would sound awesome with my 68 custom twin:) my MXR echoplex adds a nice flavor to my cleans or dirt. Check out the bogner transformer pedal the Harlow I think it is. Clean boost and a bloom knob for compression for a different flavor.
 

groovemeister

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The Wampler Black '65 was excellent for my SRV tone, but then I discovered the Lumpy's Germanium OD, and I haven't looked back. I haven't tried the El Mo and now I'm curious.
wow man - didn't know about the lumpy's.... will check it out. the el mo is a great pedal but it is a noisy mother haha - i don't even run the gain that high either. maybe i am too anal but apart from the bass notes, the el mo doesn't quite get there for me and i am playing through a fender amp also ( a blues jnr).

i've also tried a love pedal od11 which is decent but obviously doesn't give that blackface vibe. oddly enough, i get a killer pride and joy tone with my cb sft, (has that edginess that i associate a lot with stevie)starting on the middle pu for the intro then neck for the verses. what is the difference with the lumpys versus the black 65?
 
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I just bought both a Black '65 and a Euphoria, both as "always on" candidates. I'm a blackface guy, I wanted something to give me the "Super Reverb on 7" tone but at 2-3. The black '65 does a pretty damn good job.... not perfect, but good. It's a GREAT sounding pedal. It's like the EP Booster with more options and grind on demand.

The Euphoria is a real toolbox of tones. It does 75% of what the Black 65 does, but it also does a decent Dumble and OCD clone. If I had to take just ONE dirt box to a session or was forced to use someone else's amp, I'd take this pedal to get a decent tone out of it.

Both pedals can nail a SRV tone with anything from a PRRI to a Twin.
 

underdog726

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had a black 65 and doesn't come close to the srv tones compared to my elmo. With the elMo you can tell on the first riff.
 

groovemeister

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had a black 65 and doesn't come close to the srv tones compared to my elmo. With the elMo you can tell on the first riff.
hey man , the noise of the el mo doesn't bug u? it is a fine pedal i agree but It doesn't blow my mind like the dlsmk3 does when copping jimi tones..... i know people will say its stevies attack etc etc but I've been copying stevie's licks for 30 years now and even though ill never been stevie i have a pretty good handle on the chops.....we need a spot on super reverb in a pedal or i guess we just have to crank our amps till they blow up and get us banned from small venues lol.

im guessing u or somebody here must of tried the sabbadius mr white?? its the only other pedal i can think of that might give a similar vibe
 
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underdog726

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I have had 3 El Mo's and the first one was a little noisy if you turned the gain up over half way, the other two are not bad at all. It has a lot of gain so i dont need to crank it. I have had the mr white also and should of kept it. Its totally different than the El mo, its more of a boost, with some low overdrive, but an excellent boost that does seem to add the blackface tone curve. Quite sparkly and punchy. It has no eq at all. Kinda like two volume controls, very well made and quiet. Ive probably had at least 25 overdrive pedals but maybe only 4 or 5 boost pedals and the El Mo is my fav drive and the Mr. white is my fav boost. As you can probably tell i am also a SRV ocd type player ( In fact my daughter who is 30 is named stephanie ray).
 

groovemeister

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cool - maybe ill pull out the el mo and give it another shot - i do love it for some stevie tunes but not others - nails scuttlebuttin beautifully. shame the mr white doesn't have just a touch more gain cos the demos sound excellent. i also have your stevie odd haha - i sometimes think the way to go would be to save up for a super reverb and buy an attunuator haha
 

underdog726

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attenuator's work to a degree, cant bring your super reverb to bedroom volumes without dulling out the tone, but ya i agree. A super reverb or vibroverb cranked with a tube screamer and a strat with fairly low output pickups is the way to go. Thats what the ElMo is trying to simulate. I was told by a member that the El Mo into a cranked blackface live is not so good, cause its like a cranked blackface into a cranked blackface. The El mo is kinda mid scooped and does not cut thru so much with a loud band unless you raise your amps mids somewhat i found out. Good luck with all your Stevieisms, Underdog.
 

groovemeister

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yeah the el mo is definitely better with an amp set clean like most foundation type pedals in my opinion. it's like the two tube screamer thing which i realise stevie was often associated with doing on occasion - i find two tubscreamers to be too full on/too mid heavy and crappy sounding. i keep wondering something crazy lately man and that is maybe a soul food or some kind of klon klone could be worth a try - it has a slight mid emphasis and set at low gain could do the low volume stevie thing maybe - have u tried one? i guess if your amp is a tweed you won't get the blackface tonal type vibe but i could see it sounding pretty wicked just the same then hit it with an 808 for solos
 

underdog726

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Yes i have tried one, well a mythical overdrive, and works pretty much as you have described. Since the El Mo has hardly any mids, it gets along with a pedal that does.
 

groovemeister

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wow i bet that wampler spring sounds sweet - i heard it was one of his best pedals... so you are using the el mo as your base tone and hitting the clone for solos?
 

underdog726

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ya, pretty much. sometimes the mythical on its own for cleans. Just looked at your pedals, you have some nice gear . I think i need to get a fuzz, maybe a bigger pedal board,lol. I do like keeping it as simple as i can. Oh and i do like the wampler faux spring reverb, bought it to go along with the fender excelsior amp i got a deal on, and now i just use it over my traynors reverb also.
 

groovemeister

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i love my board but maybe its a touch excessive haha- i do use everything though. my main goal with this board is to nail the tones of stevie, jimi,stones,ac/dc etc. the sunface is great for later stevie but i mostly use it for jimi and the octafuzz into the ts-9 is a very cool stevie thing too. the el mo normally goes where the phase 90 is - just threw that on there for a wedding gig where are you gonna go my way was on the set list lol - love it for some sep stuff too. the sft is my stones and rock n roll rhythm pedal - house is rocking sounds wicked on that would u believe. the dls is my jimi/ac-dc/marshall base tone and the el mo is in the ever changing spot that is trying to be my stevie base tone - the 808 is my lead boost for pretty much everything
 






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