Weber Silver Bell = which Celestion?

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  1. granite

    granite Member

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    Is there a Celestion speaker that is similar to the 12" Ceramic Weber Silver Bell?
     
  2. ccoker

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    it sounds like a warm, broken in greenback with more lowend and a smoother topend

    as you go up in power, the magnet gets bigger (50w has a 50oz) and the tone gets smoother, lowend tighter
    I have an alnico paired with a mesa c90
    sounds fabulous
     
  3. granite

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    Here's what I'm trying to do. I want to order a 2x12 cab from Avatar. They only carry Celestions and Eminence speakers. I want to get a cab that sounds similar to a 30W Alnico Blue Dog & 30W Ceramic Silver Bell. Is there a Cel or Eminence speaker pair that will get me a VERY similar sound? I've heard "Red Fangs" mentioned.
     
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    Why not get it empty and get the speakers for Ted?

    BTW I really like the red fang. You could get the cab loaded with a greenback and a fang. Worst case, dump the greenback and get a bell
     
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    the silver bell is a clone of the alnico celestions that marshall used in 64-65
     
  6. granite

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    I would do this, but I have no experience with soldering and I'm afraid I'd screw it up. Plus, I'm not sure Avatar has an empty Premier Vintage cab. I sent them an email, awaiting a response. Will call in a bit, but I'm looking for something preassembled.
     
  7. bluesbreaker59

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    Dude, soldering is a piece of cake. Just get an empty cab and the speakers that you want.

    Worst case scenario, you have to take it to a tech in your area, and he charges you maybe $25 to solder two speakers in. I did this once, and the guy said don't worry about it. I watched him do it, and its like, wow, that's not hard, I can do this myself from now on.
     
  8. granite

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    Alright...you going to talk me through it??? :D

    Another question then, if I want an 8 ohm 2x12 cab do I buy two 16 ohm speakers? Sorry, I'm a wiring novice here.
     
  9. Slick51

    Slick51 Colonel Curmudgeon Silver Supporting Member

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    Yes, two 16 ohm speakers wired parallel gives 8 ohms.

    I use a Red Fang and a Man O War together, and they sound very sweet. I also have an alnico Blue Dog and a ceramic Silver Bell; I like the RF/MOW combo a little better.

    my $0.02
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  10. ccoker

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    you know Weber makes 4 ohm speakers?
    you can get two and wire them in series for an 8 ohm load

    I think series sounds better..

    these has been debated here on this site, do a search

    Weber is even offering cabs, they carry Mojo cabs, they make an oversized one similar to the premier vintage

    check thevintagesound.com they can get you an oversized loaded with webers as well
     
  11. DanRoy

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    no soldering required....avatar cabs use slide on connectors
     
  12. granite

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    Ohhhh....this makes things a little easier. Is there a disadvantage to this type of connector?
     
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    Yes. If your connection comes loose or corrodes over time your amp won't see a load. This will toast your amp (transformer anyway).

    Slide on connector for amp speakers are a bad idea.
     

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